MIght you have a well-balanced discussion, not over-too-serious or the
other side? simply just in the middle, balanced.
Gnome is sure heavy. I wrote "check the code". After considering the
code, it might be nice input for a nice idea of making a fork of it.
Once done, the code can be considered o
I just compile without xinerama, and dwm is slighty lighter than jwm.
If you stick to the minimum with jwm, it is not that heavy at all. This is nice.
Why jwm, because after chopping some lines into code, it can give a
nice minimalist fork.
2016-08-02 23:25 GMT+02:00 Timothy Rice :
> Hi Pat,
>
It was indeed quite interesting decision from Fedora. It seems that
Fedora is serious about it.
"The rumors of its death are greatly exaggerated... Sailfish OS has been
using Wayland from the start and Fedora wants to make Wayland the default
for their next release (I wouldn't count on it)."
2016
It is on the way, I look for more ideas.
What surprised me is that there aren't so much nice code for tiny
window managers.
There are quite too little choices today.
http://incise.org/not-so-tiny-window-managers.html
2016-08-02 23:08 GMT+02:00 Timothy Rice :
>> jwm needs to be simplified and op
You likely could mean... a rewrite might the easiest and much faster.
I think that only dwm on suckless is too little. It needs a new sort
of wm, visually like jwm, filliing the gap between tinywm and dwm.
Cheers!
2016-08-02 23:04 GMT+02:00 Timothy Rice :
> Hi Pat,
>
>> Sure that it needs a
I believe than an alternative to dwm might be good. dwm is fine, but
an alternative could be useful.
Concerning the source, I knows those addtional libs... well, several
drawbacks to be solved.
jwm needs to be simplified and optimized first. Giving a new birth name ??WM...
2016-08-02 22:47 GM
Sure that it needs a bit of improvements...
2016-08-02 22:41 GMT+02:00 FRIGN :
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:35:45 +0200
> patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>
>> /*
>> JWM v2.3.5 by Joe Wingbermuehle
>> compiled options: confirm icons nls xbm
>> */
>>
>&
I believe that we will have to strive to keep X11.
2016-08-02 20:33 GMT+02:00 Silvan Jegen :
> Heyho
>
> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 06:27:49PM +0200, FRIGN wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 18:04:20 +0200
>> patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>>
>> Hey Patrick,
>>
Good evening,
I think that JWM could be made visible on the website of www.suckless.org.
Please check the code of jwm...
JWM is relatively light, and people like it very much jwm as much as
dwm. For jwm, only libx11-dev is necessary. JWM is fluid, it looks
nice. With xbindkeys it is a nice alter
Hi,
Do you believe that Wayland will replace X11 one day?;)
Besides, don't you believe that Ubuntu may have time to time some
negative influence on Linux phylosophy?
Quote:
Display server expert Daniel Stone explains what is really happening
with the future of graphical display protocols on
maybe it would work with apulse
i wont install pulseaudio
2015-07-13 17:32 GMT+02:00 Alex Pilon :
>> Pat wrote:
>> > I would like to install bluetooth in a lightweight maneer.
>>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 09:49:13AM -0400, Bobby Powers wrote:
>> You may also need the helper programs located in t
Good morning,
I would like to install bluetooth in a lightweight maneer.
Under Debian, would you know if it is possible to install bluetooth
without installing Python?
bluetooth file <-> transfert works with python installed.
Kind regards, / Have a Nice Week!
Pat
I found the solution here it is:
C !!
I coded my own epub reader in C.
( :=) :=) It is faster to code it than googling for something that
does not exist)
Best regards,
Pat
2015-05-26 19:12 GMT+02:00 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff :
> patrick295767 patrick295767 said:
>> Would you kn
Hello Guys,
Would you know a good EPUB reader for our Linux terminal (in C
language coded, ncurses)?
Thank you,
Greetings,
Pat
t;
fair point
2014-11-22 21:13 GMT+01:00 FRIGN :
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:43:07 +0100
> patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>
>> You travel to Budapest by car. And, you get your car stolen.
>> No no no. Budapest isn't a great idea.
>> Munich is far better and you ar
fair point.
You travel to Budapest by car. And, you get your car stolen.
No no no. Budapest isn't a great idea.
Munich is far better and you are in a peaceful place and country. Less
dangerous to lose money by being stolen.
Although slightly more expensive, the food quality in Germany is better.
:39 GMT+01:00 FRIGN :
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:36:11 +0100
> patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>
>> I would like to ask you when is planned the next conference in Munich
>> on suckless / future of Linux / autoconf insanity / networking / ...
>> terminal geek apps / C cod
Dear Members,
I would like to ask you when is planned the next conference in Munich
on suckless / future of Linux / autoconf insanity / networking / ...
terminal geek apps / C coding / happy hacking / happy penguin(s) ...
(maybe happy dolphins too <- joke).
Greetings,
Pat'
I just check kakoune. It isn't very pretty, actually, but has quite
some features. Herewith a shot:
http://i.imgur.com/b4cbnro.png
I still think that the Windows-like is cool, and why not upgrading the
C-code of clifreepascal?
http://s17.postimg.org/fa4ffpyj3/clifreepascal.png
For instance i
thank you for your great ideas
The features that you mention are not a big deal to code. Long time
ago, mostly, I have already coded sthg like this in the past, but I
have NO windows yet : nwim2.
nwim2 features:
"I think that the only things we have to implement are:
1. Most vim bindings (not
at do you thing about it?
>
> On 06/29/2014 03:24 PM, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For many years I have been looking for a lightweight alternative to VIM.
>> (sthg else than Emacs, elvis, nano,... and all the billion of text
>> edi
Hello,
For many years I have been looking for a lightweight alternative to VIM.
(sthg else than Emacs, elvis, nano,... and all the billion of text editor).
I was reading the emailed topic "Text-only browser that sucks less" on
our list, and herewith the following question:
- Which alterna
Why not to use simply XLIB??
Look with a minimum of deps, one can easily do a sort of powerful
vector graphics.
To compile mine (which is still too basic), I use only:
gcc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 x11vectgfx.c -o x11vectgfx ; ./x11vectgfx
The problem I have with Xfig and Xpaint is that it d
Hej Guys,
Some 5-7 years ago, we coded a lightweight vector graphic soft that
was based on Xlib. It used some key bindings of Adobe Illustrator, but
it was really too basic for anything.
We are coding a new one which is based on SDL, but project dvlpt is really slow.
Whatsoever I can use those 2
Hi Guys, Hi Friends,
I have slightly exagerated in the title of the message/thread. I would
like to notice that we should have a lighter image viewer than feh,
qiv and sxiv.
The three are excellent image viewers.
In my opinion, feh should be modified and cut down in terms of dependencies.
qiv is
Hi Friends, Hello Guys,
Because you have always very fantastic/great ideas in this field, I
would like to ask if you would know a cool vector graphics editor.
You probably know Inkscape, but I must say that I am not a fan of this software.
Inkscape is a free and open source software vector graph
- "Unless I’m mistaken, suckless in general advocates for
statically-linked standard C libraries of reasonable size.
http://suckless.org/rocks";
Actually, this page http://suckless.org/rocks could be better.
Many useful lightweight applications are not listed.
This very old, SC, is not listed.
The
many many many thanks. Awesome post !!
2014-05-08 10:48 GMT+02:00 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff :
> patrick295767 patrick295767 said:
>> One can retrieve the link and send it over mplayer on nix, vlc,... and
>> any win32 apps as well.
>
> quvi dump -b mute -e "ffplay %u" $URL
>
> --
> Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
>
Hello,
Over the years I was commonly using Mutt (probably as you too...).
Offlineimap is a reliable (well, more or less) to fetch email and get
them to work offline.
However... I would be really pleased to find another C programm (+ a
config for imap/smtp) that would replace OfflineImap.
This c
HI Meillo,
your config ~/.xpdfrc could be interesting. If available, please do
not hesitate to share this config file.
hjkl would be awesome to use on mupdf.
Greetings.
2014-05-02 10:59 GMT+02:00 markus schnalke :
> [2014-05-01 21:29] patrick295767 patrick295767
>>
>> [...] w
One can retrieve the link and send it over mplayer on nix, vlc,... and
any win32 apps as well.
2014-05-07 19:33 GMT+02:00 Ryan O’Hara :
> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM, patrick295767 patrick295767
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was watching a movie on youtube, and finally I r
Hi,
I was watching a movie on youtube, and finally I realized that we
still haven't coded an application, such as we were doing 10-20 years
ago.
Why we still so heavily use the browser, when so much is possible with
coding in C.
Well you might you youtube python app, but it is so much marvellous
, as
a package for Linux, with maybe fbdev support on it.
2014-05-01 21:09 GMT+02:00 Nick :
> Quoth patrick295767 patrick295767:
>> Mupdf has a windows and src file.
>
> It's also packaged for most distributions, but the build system is
> reasonable if you want to use the
It is actually probably less work than modding xpdf. mupdf is a nice idea.
I will check a bit the code. apt-get source mupdf,
and a man tells us:
I wonder if h,j,k,l could no be used to move to various page, and
actally we could use s,d,w,x for scrolling...
" L, R Rotate page left (clock
Mupdf has a windows and src file.
Which key shortcut can you figure out, can you fly over your pdf
document such as you may do with vim ... ?
http://www.mupdf.com/downloads/
Regards
2014-05-01 20:46 GMT+02:00 Nick :
> Quoth Anthony J. Bentley:
>> MuPDF is nice but has a disgusting license (AGPL
Hi Guys,
What about a lightweight pdf viewer for giving talks ?
I am now modifying and recompiling xpdf. It is quite a light pdf viewer.
You plug your Linux box, and give a great talk ;) !
Yours sincerely,
Pat
Hi,
The tinywm is a quite minimal. Tinywm is written in not many lines.
Tinywm works well and is quite basic.
Link: http://packages.debian.org/sid/tinywm
So, j ust for fun, what about having a tinier code of the tinywm?
Regards,
Pat
--
For fun:
Fermion tiny wm of 10 lines? ;)
Hi,
This is definitely correct, - more than correct:
"The busybox init code is far from pretty."
I would not add it. Furthermore, it is a pretty slow application.
On the other hand: Another application:
Although the dependencies, I like the code of this application. I
believe it is sort
You are completely right. Windows is important.
Another point... what about colors? You never know what the user
using your program will get.
Linux terminal, Windows Terminal, xterm,...
e.g:
http://invisible-island.net/xterm/images/contrast.jpg
2013/12/3 Noah Birnel :
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at
tence, but still, some problems may
still exist with characters, although Unicode/utf-8,.. are there to
make it easier.
(It is a bug).
2013/12/3 Troels Henriksen :
> patrick295767 patrick295767 writes:
>
>> I am not so sure if you can get all the unicode well displayed on most
>>
Thanks.
OK. It is possible.
>
> Heyho,
>
> Can you please stop double-quoting? Thanks.
>
> --Markus
>
Tru64 (aka OSF1 and Digital Unix) 4.0d, 5.1 (cc)
Windows 7, using MinGW
2013/12/3 patrick295767 patrick295767 :
> The UTF-8 is sure the one to adopt. Luckily it exists ;)
>
> "Unicode also has all the weird line-drawing characters you could ever
> want, if you find them importan
> patrick295767 wrote:
> >When I am using Windows, I need sometimes to use Linux without
> >touching anything. So I run Debian from the USB stick. It must remain
> >very light and fast.
"Use a live media that copies everything to RAM. Make your own if no
readily availa
to show nice effects, you may use extended
one: CP437, for instance, and the windows one is a "standard".
This is likely not installed or you may have some "porting" problems.
2013/12/3 Ismael Luceno :
> On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 12:59:59 +0100
> Troels Henriksen
Hello,
If you are developing C/C++ programs in a terminal environment, you
may know the problem of the codepages. Sometimes in Putty, SSH,... you
may have some problems with characters.
What about this "Portability" of your terminal applications? - Not
great, isn't it?
If you would like to have
Your application: https://code.google.com/p/grafx2/wiki/gallery
is really awesome.
I wonder if it is not better to port/code a gfx application which
could be using SDL on Windows as well.
SDL is quite well compatible, universal:
"SDL officially supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android.
Nothing faster
than C coded apps.
2013/12/2 Nick :
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 05:54:11PM +0100, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>> Gimp on Linux is rather ok, but on Linux, the portable version and the
>> 2.8.10 are very slow, which limits drastically the use.
>>
>> O
look for instance photoshop 2, 20 years ago:
simple and efficient
http://netdna.webdesignerdepot.com/uploads/evolution_of_photoshop/107-mac2.jpg
2013/12/2 Alexander Huemer :
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 05:54:11PM +0100, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>> Since a long time I have been u
se actions (as to script functions like select)
>
>
> [0] http://prog21.dadgum.com/180.html
>
> On 2 December 2013 11:54, patrick295767 patrick295767
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since a long time I have been using gimp on Windows and Linux.
>>
>> Gimp on
Hi,
Since a long time I have been using gimp on Windows and Linux.
Gimp on Linux is rather ok, but on Linux, the portable version and the
2.8.10 are very slow, which limits drastically the use.
On an usb installation, gimp might be quite slow, unfortunately.
Well, in comparison, dwm is a great
indeed. Completely correct.
I would anyhow have tried to receive a short survey / feedback if some
of us, - dwm user, might eventually find it as "nice to have" or might
be eventually useful for the dwm... just curious
2013/11/14 Ryan O’Hara :
> For a primarily tiling window manager that encourag
ck,
>
> Quoth patrick295767 patrick295767:
>> "When desktop warping is enabled, dragging a window outside the desktop
>>will change to the next desktop."
>>
>> I hope that it describes it well.
>>
>> Would you appreciate to have this feature
Hi,
For instance, I have been using during years fluxbox, and I must say
that there was one feature (one out of many) that was interesting to be used.
- It is called "Desktop Warping"
What is it? - From the flux man page, it has been indicated as follows:
"When desktop warping is enabled, draggi
d.
2013/11/14 Carlos Torres :
> Hi Patrick,
>
> On 11/14/13, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>>
>> Ok, look my example, think about a student behind the rules of the admin.
>
> Then you must appeal to the administrator(s) and provide the source so that
> they may
what about activating your ssh server only when you need it?
You could even activate it via mobile phone (e.g. SMS to your box),
and stop your ssh the same way.
Exotic ssh port is a very good way to avoid already a good deal of
brute attempts. The ssh activation another way to make the box withou
100, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>> In my opinion, the lock (slock) shall be remain very light based a
>> very minimum of x11, in other words just on the x11 minimum of x11
>> layer functions/libs
>
> Correctness before simplicity, always in that order.
simply
lock x11 in the most simple manner.
Furthermore, the user can anytime pkill slock from another tty.
2013/11/14 sin :
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 09:32:44PM +0100, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Slock is a nice application. However I would go on simpler
>
Hi,
Slock is a nice application. However I would go on simpler
even to avoid the suid/sgid check.
In my opinion, it could/should stick to a minimum.
/ramdisk/slock-1.1$ make
slock build options:
CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Os -I. -I/usr/include
-I/usr/X11R6/include -DVERSION="1.1" -DHA
well, a lot of large corporate companies offer a webmail portal?
Accenture for instance.
IT do not like it so much, but, it is still not too bad in terms of security.
Microsoft: http://c15048056.r56.cf2.rackcdn.com/2.png
No security is perfect :)
2013/11/2 Chris Down :
> On 2013-11-02 11:33,
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> patrick295767 patrick295767 dixit:
>
>>Security is not perfect. A bouncer is fine, or helps.
>
> You just want to flame, I’d guess.
No, no. I am kinda checking regularly my machines, and I avoid as much
as possible to l
Security is not perfect. A bouncer is fine, or helps.
The idea of protecting your data makes senses. Security is an important topic.
2013/11/2 Ryan O’Hara :
> Use a bouncer if you’re paranoid. Otherwise, keep in mind that people
> have better things to do.
>
> On 11/1/13, p
/11/1 A :
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:19 AM, A wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:22 AM, patrick295767 patrick295767
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe that OFTC is not along the suckless philosophy somehow.
>>>
>> And why is that?
>>
>
I believe that OFTC is not along the suckless philosophy somehow.
2013/11/1 Chris Down :
> On 2013-11-01 09:14, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>> You trace the IP address on OFTC or provide some cloak?
>
> Go talk to the OFTC ircops if you want that. Usually, they won't
You trace the IP address on OFTC or provide some cloak?
2013/11/1 Chris Down :
> On 2013-11-01 09:08, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote:
>> Would you know if there could be a new channel of Suckless on irc
>> freenode?
>>
>> I would recommend freenode which is qu
Hi Guys,
Would you know if there could be a new channel of Suckless on irc
freenode?
I would recommend freenode which is quite popular.
Could you create one on freenode, follow and add it to your irc channel...?
See you soon !
Pat'
--
May Suckless Dev Be With You, Always
...mayb
:
mod4 + l
mod4 + h
I am sure that it may be useful.
mod4 + w to close/kill
mod4 + x to read the cfg and launch xterm
Nice dwm, All the best,
Uncle Pat
--
vim + dwm + gcc are the best
and the console ;)
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