Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:36:38PM +0700, Comrade DOS wrote: > Hi. > Migration on git is a very good idea. Maybe you can move source code on > github and/or bitbucket? Do you want ants, Christoph? Because this is how you get ants.

Re: [dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 08:46:37PM +0100, Andreas Krennmair wrote: > * Christian Neukirchen [2012-11-26 20:30]: > >Andreas Krennmair writes: > > > >> * pancake [2012-11-26 18:00]: > >>>On 11/26/12 17:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: > >>>>programming l

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:55:33PM +0100, pancake wrote: > about hgfs... it is using the mercurial python module, right? because > the googlecode svn repo is empty.. or am i pointing to the wrong hgfs? cinap's done a lot of work removing dependencies on the python/ape stuff. it's not 100% there

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:29:23PM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > I am going to stop this discussion because I think we will not gain anything > with it, but it is very funny that people here use the word 'complex' in some > religious way, and the things that they don't like directl

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:08:56PM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > The git source tree is more than four hundred percent bigger than the > > are you comparing the size of a project in python with the size of a project > written in C?. The logical relation should be 2 times the size o

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:38:17AM -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote: > One could argue that hg doesn't fit the suckless philosophy The git source tree is more than four hundred percent bigger than the mercurial source tree. git ships more than 160 *man pages*. It is the emacs of version control. Th

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 04:10:46PM +0100, pancake wrote: > On 11/26/12 15:41, Kurt H Maier wrote: > everytime i proposed in mercurialchan to rewrite it in C, everybody > thought i was trolling or so.. i would also love to have hg in c, > but the reactions were pretty rude, so i decide

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:55:39AM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > Uhmm, I have done it with st repository of course, I work with git against > the actual hg repository ^^!!!. > Christoph, why can't you just do this instead of shitting all over everything else?

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:25:18AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is > mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this > slow prototyping dependency of Python, which is annoying and could be > remov

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-25 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 09:57:53PM +0100, Hugues Moretto-Viry wrote: > > It doesn't change anything. This mailing is interesting, especially for > patches / news , except when you see rude comments. Nearly every rude comment posted to this list is well-deserved. Many of us consider it just as ru

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-25 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 09:00:18PM +0100, KarlOskar Rikås wrote: > Well I don't know how to change that with the shitty client I'm using. Then stop posting until you get to a real mail client

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-25 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:46:14PM +0100, KarlOskar Rikås wrote: > It's always good to have a friendly attitude. > On Nov 25, 2012 8:44 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > At least you could try to be respectful. I respect you why not doing the > > > same with me? > > > > That's a misuse

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:45:54PM +0100, Hadrian Węgrzynowski wrote: > > You want "our" opinion, but there is "No need to talk about (...)". > Maybe there is not a lot more to say then? He's in charge here! Just spit out the required information! Adhere to the parameters set! Why are you argu

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:18:08PM +0100, Adrian Sadłocha wrote: > On 2012-11-20 14:07, hiro wrote: > > I block only in my DNS. I think it's the most important feature of my > > home network. Not only because it blocks ads, but also because it > > block fads. > What does 'fad' mean? > It means "p

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-21 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:13:06PM +0100, Yoshi Rokuko wrote: > somehow you guys still haven't convinced me of not using a local > /etc/hosts with all these 0.0.0.0 goat.cx in it. Thanks for letting us know, Yoshi Rokuko.

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 05:37:09PM +0100, hiro wrote: > so that i don't have to set it up on all my fucking pcs. for me > personally it was easier this way since I already have a dns server > anyway. > sorry I didn't know you lived in a fucking computer lab

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:42:34PM +, Nick wrote: > > What I meant is that privoxy will strip out e.g. src="badthing.png"> from the HTML it delivers to the browser, so the > browser will not request it. I think it does the same with scripts > etc. > So that makes more sense. It seems to ha

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:33:20PM +0100, Troels Henriksen wrote: > Kurt H Maier writes: > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:30:38PM +, Nick wrote: > >> > >> The way I do it with a local proxy means that said requests are > >> stripped out of the HTML

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:30:38PM +, Nick wrote: > > The way I do it with a local proxy means that said requests are > stripped out of the HTML before reaching the browser. DNS based > things will presumably fail immediately with /etc/hosts, rather > than time out. > But you're still wastin

Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking

2012-11-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:08:01PM +, Nick wrote: > Yeah, I agree with the general feeling that adblocking shouldn't be > done in the browser. wtf? the ads are DISPLAYED in the browser. it's stupid to blackhole dns and let requests time out rather than just not making the request in the firs

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:00:23AM +0100, Jens Staal wrote: > For me, this is a nicer solution than for example pacman to keep track on > which files that belong to which package (no fragile databases needed). I am > also happy to report that dmenu/dwm works nicely on Sabotage (however, it > see

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > > sta.li > -- > To me archlinux was a good distro until a couple of years ago. > Nowadays it seems to be very en vogue and thus has degraded quite > significantly in terms of simplicity. I'm not aware of any distro that > would

Re: [dev] [st] Keyboard patches

2012-11-13 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 07:34:00PM +0100, Brandon Invergo wrote: > > I'm glad that you're thorough and you've put a lot of work into making > st robust, but how do these patches help us in 2012-soon-to-be-2013? > What?

Re: [dev] Problem with dwm while using locale kn_IN

2012-11-12 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 08:30:10PM +0530, Vasudev Kamath wrote: > > bank account?? > You need to have your checking account and routing number on file with the Suckless Support division to enable the Pro Pack on dwm.

Re: [dev] [announce] rat - ridiculously abysmal tar

2012-11-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 12:58:09PM +1100, Alex Hutton wrote: > Which languages qualify as suckless? Loglan for new development, English for legacy support. Hope this helps

Re: [dev] [st] 0.3 release

2012-11-02 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > > * easy debugging with: st -o - | cat -v cat came back from __20h__ waving flags

Re: [dev] I don't want to live on this planet anymore

2012-11-01 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 12:13:50PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > I'd really wish if you'd stop the random banter in all threads. I forget > the last time you contributed to a discussion -_- On hiro's behalf, I apologizing for disrupting important discussions regarding "I don't want to live on

Re: [dev] [st] cjk input

2012-10-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:37:35PM +0800, Kai Hendry wrote: > On 29 October 2012 22:27, Petr Šabata wrote: > > Tested with scim; no issues with the input. > > People still use SCIM? I thought it was unmaintained. I thought RH > supported ibus instead or are you just slow to move over ? > http://e

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:52:16PM +0100, pancake wrote: > Do you know ssg? Its a perl script that converts a markdown file into a > postscript slides.. I already have typesetting software. ssg's existence doesn't make markdown more useful, it just makes it slightly less useful than troff. > T

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:17:27PM -0400, Galos, David wrote: > It you really want to typeset your e-mails, why not use > markdown? > > * It is human readable, so no-one needs any fancy frontend > * You don't need any annoying multi-part nonsense > * After using things like werc, it should already

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:18:43AM -0400, Luis Anaya wrote: > HTML is the most "logical" approach for formatting. What? > Kurt stated, how come you do not use HTML in itself? No, he didn't.

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:52:46AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > It might as well *be* HTML email. > > I assume that the typesetting will be done on his end, instead of just > dumping verbose formatting into your termi

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 05:03:06PM +0400, p37si...@lavabit.com wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:21:40PM +0100, hiro wrote: > > typesetting? raw text can be typeset just fine with a keyboard. not > > sure what you're really up to. > > > > It is suckless answer to HTML email. > It might as wel

Re: [dev] Wayland

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 09:59:44PM +0200, hiro wrote: > your mother is a better replacement for X11. i'd hardly call his mother network-transparent >

Re: [dev] Wayland

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
Envoyé d'thisagain

Re: [dev] uriel is gone

2012-10-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 09:50:34AM +0200, Hadrian Węgrzynowski wrote: > > Sorry if I'm ignorant, but what will happen with cat-v.org? > it's in good hands, and should remain online for the foreseeable future.

Re: [dev] uriel is gone

2012-10-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 05:43:51PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > I saw this on the plan 9 playlist. Does anyone have any proof? (jw) > Sure. Just wait twenty or thirty years and see if he says anything.

Re: [dev] uriel is gone

2012-10-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32:23PM +0200, Jakub Lach wrote: > > Dead as in troll which is not trolling is dead troll, or as > a dead troll which is dead? > > I would miss him in both cases. > First one, then the other.

[dev] uriel is gone

2012-10-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
Sorry to have to let you guys know, uriel passed away peacefully a couple days ago. We'll miss him. Kurt

Re: [dev] [st] toggle font

2012-10-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:28:33PM +0100, Nick wrote: > Quoth Roberto E. Vargas Caballero: > > I also need this feature, but maybe could be done in other way. I talked > > about this with other persons of the list, and we liked let st be configured > > using the stdin of st, so you can do it someth

Re: [dev] antialiased fonts in st

2012-10-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 05:06:45PM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > Sadly, I haven’t found a way to to overwrite the global settings in > fontconfig for just an application. So the needed antialiasing in Fire‐ > fox (The web looks ugly without!) will automatically overwrite the st > setti

Re: [dev] Hall of shame of the web

2012-09-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
a, did safari crash again?

Re: [dev] [st] [sandy] wierd things happens to the font after sandy use

2012-09-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 01:05:47AM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote: >I really tried to find corefonts that would look good and represent nearly >all unicode characters - it's impossible. On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 09:26:48AM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > Near to all default xft fonts are missing a

Re: [dev] [dwm] Why does gimp float by default

2012-09-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:48:07PM +0100, Nick wrote: > In dwm's config.h, gimp is used as an example rule to start > floating. This seems like a bad example, as gimp is much less useful > when its windows aren't managed. > > Is there a program that's widely used, that is genuinely better to >

Re: [dev] [st] xft: line drawing

2012-09-25 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 05:47:07PM +0200, Brandon Invergo wrote: > > Anyone else have this problem or is it just me? > we have to find out if it's working on christophms mac or it won't get fixed

Re: [dev] bspwm 0.1

2012-09-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:28:18PM +0200, Bastien Dejean wrote: > Hi, > > I'm glad to announce the first release of bspwm, a tiling window manager > I've been working on for the past two months: > https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm Oh, another window manager where you have to manage your ow

Re: [dev] [ANN] CGD - Ultra-minimalist HTTP and FastCGI wrapper for CGI programs.

2012-09-21 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 03:47:54PM +0200, hiro wrote: > > why do you trust the go libs so much, did you look at them? did you > make any objective tests of relevant criteria? it's much simpler to blindly assume that the standard library of an infant programming language is totally approprite for

Re: [dev] libixp questions

2012-09-21 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 03:53:56PM +0200, Christophe-Marie Duquesne wrote: > Hi, > > Why not zeromq? It seems to be light, simple and performant. It also > has extended documentation, and a large community to support it. > > Tof > Why not a js library

Re: [dev] [ANN] CGD - Ultra-minimalist HTTP and FastCGI wrapper for CGI programs.

2012-09-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 09:50:14PM +0200, Džen wrote: > What's the reason behind using nginx anyway? I guess it would be simpler to > write an own http web server with go's http lib. Or am I wrong? Yes sure it's absolutely simpler to design, write, and test your own public-facing network service f

Re: [dev] [OT] performance monitoring using hardware counters

2012-08-31 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 06:29:32AM +0200, Valentin Ochs wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 05:34:26PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > Played around with Systemtap and it seems to have what I need. However, > > I can't get user space probing to work! Apparently, you

Re: [dev] [OT] Setting up a dedicated server

2012-08-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 05:24:40PM +0200, clamiax wrote: > I just trust some people here and I wanted an opinion. I know this is > somewhat irritating. Sorry dear. noise goes in irc

Re: [dev] any update on stali?

2012-08-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:30:32PM +, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Strake wrote: > > * diversify architecturally, e.g. i686, Loongson > > > Why Loongson? > He means MIPS.

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:11:47PM +0300, Jukka Ruohonen wrote: > > I love it when suckless talks about amateur hours. > > Maybe it is time to rewrite cat again? > Are you saying there is no value to be gained in simple implementations, are you saying that there are problems you wish fixed in s

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 02:39:43PM +0100, David Tweed wrote: > Well, yes-and-no. The end user (who in the case of many linux desktops > and laptops is also the sys admin) may not be aware of how things are > structured "under the hood", but they can perceive "laptop X spends a > lot of time doing s

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:00:03PM +0100, David Tweed wrote: > I'll just note that, regardless of code quality, etc, there's the > question of what the end-user usability goals for an init system > should be. No. An "end user" should not even be aware init exists. The people an init system has t

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:36:55PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > Hey all, > > Recently on the Arch mailing list there has been much discussion of > different init systems. I was just wondering which init system, y'all > approve of. SysV or OpenRC pretty suckless and unix-y to me. > > What do yo

Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]

2012-08-13 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:54:15AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: > > Are you insinuating that Go is the best choice for all projects, > regardless of requirements? Or just that C is never the right choice? > He is saying the language creators should also create build systems. He does not like flex

Re: [dev] Re: Regarding "dogma" words

2012-08-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 04:22:57AM +0200, Harry wrote: > Don't be too hard on the posts - at least they contain comments... > > which is more than can be said about the coding. > > "Not suckless" is a double negative - do they write code that way? > > Someone says they don't have to give a "beca

Re: [dev] unsubscribe

2012-08-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:34:57PM -0800, Jon Bradley wrote: > dev+unsubscr...@suckless.org almost there!

Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]

2012-08-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:48:22PM +0300, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > P.S.: Everytime I hear "suckless" (or "pythonic", or > "the-java-way", or "the-unix-way", or "the-< language>>-way"), it makes me thing of a dogmatic priest chanting his > ritual... And most of the time I have the feeling

Re: [dev] New friends

2012-08-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:57:03AM +0200, pancake wrote: > Every time I read this subject in my inbox I vomit. > X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B176)

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:51:27AM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > > I don't know about you, but I'd rather use an effective unportable > tool than an ineffective portable one. > I'd rather use an effective portable one, and pretending that doesn't exist doesn't help anything.

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:57:38PM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 3 August 2012 19:02, Uriel wrote: > > head(1) is utterly and completely idiotic. sed 11q is superior in > > every possible way. > > % head -n -10 > > % sed -e :a -e '$d;N;2,10ba' -e 'P;D' > > No thanks. > > cls > $ head

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-02 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 10:33:19AM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > I think cut is exactly the kind of job that awk (or sed) can be good > for. It seems crazy not to use an existing tool that implements all > the functionality, that can be nicely bundled in a a script. > To be honest, I feel th

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-01 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:33:14PM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > The question is: since cut can be implemented IN awk, why should it get > > a separate C binary? Anyone nattering about performance in a shell > > scr

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-01 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 07:28:57PM -0400, Steven Blatchford wrote: > > What is your awk to print fields three and four with this input: > > 'foo bar baz quz' > Depends on what output format I want. Get to the point instead of trying to set me up for failure; I don't have time for this shit

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-01 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 07:13:57PM -0400, Steven Blatchford wrote: > > Give this[0] a read and see what you think. > > [0] http://awk.freeshell.org/RangeOfFields > I think their suggestions are based on 1) deciding to use a shitty version of awk, and 2) the idea that you should give a shit i

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-01 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 11:02:52PM +0100, Nick wrote: > > Bah. There's a balance to be struck. Scripts which aren't awful > should be supported. The issue is whether using cut constitutes > 'awful'. I think it does not. There are legitimate cases where it's > simpler and clearer than awk/sed. >

Re: [dev] [PATCH] sbase: add cut

2012-08-01 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:58:00AM -0400, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > Why would you use awk or Perl when you have the best programming language > available: Ruby? > On Aug 1, 2012 8:55 AM, "Martin Kopta" wrote: > > > On 08/01/2012 02:36 PM, Uriel wrote: > > > >> Use awk. > >> > > > > Use Perl. > > >

Re: [dev] New friends

2012-07-31 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:10:21PM +0200, hiro wrote: > Yay. In the meantime OSS4 is quite usable. No it isn't. > ALSA sucks and every step away from it is a good step. Agreed.

Re: [dev] Re: Binary Space Partitioning Window Manager

2012-07-30 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 04:26:38PM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > Greetings. > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:26:38 +0200 Christian Neukirchen > wrote: > > Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> writes: > > > > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:54:07 +0200 Bastien Dejean > > > wrote: > > >> Hyphenated plain t

Re: [dev] Binary Space Partitioning Window Manager

2012-07-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:15:48AM +0100, Nick wrote: > Anyway, ignore Christoph, he's just trying to push mediocrity. At least he runs hg push once in a while. Where is the code?

Re: [dev] Re: Digest of dev@suckless.org issue 186 (12070-12119)

2012-07-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:52:06PM +0100, Deric Bytes wrote: > Unsubscribe No.

Re: [dev] Build system: redo

2012-07-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 08:14:12PM -0400, Andreas Wagner wrote: > The design, not the code. "Make" refers to the default make on a system > which could be GNU Make, BSD Make or whatever. Typically "make" does not > refer to a codebase except maybe the make from UNIX which few have actually > used.

Re: [dev] Build system: redo

2012-07-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 07:42:06PM -0400, Prakhar Goel wrote: > > So? So mk is a cleaned up make and redo isn't? Not buying it.

Re: [dev] Build system: redo

2012-07-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 06:53:38PM -0400, Prakhar Goel wrote: > > Redo will do the same things that make did but better. I think make does the "not be written in fucking python" thing better. Do you have a patch that addresses this? Thanks, Kurt

Re: [dev] Systems Software Research is Irrelevant

2012-07-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 05:39:40PM +0200, Kai Hendry wrote: > On the topic of odd finds, anyone heard of > http://code.google.com/p/es-operating-system/ ? "As we realize ECMAScript/Web based applications are becoming very important and useful, ES operating system has been designed to make the Web

Re: [dev] github mirror

2012-07-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 12:54:50PM +0200, Kai Hendry wrote: > https://github.com/scklss/dwm/graphs/ haha what the hell value is this exactly

Re: [dev] [dmenu] doesn't appear with 2 monitors and no application opened

2012-06-30 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 03:14:40PM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Uli Armbruster > wrote: > > After booting my laptop with an external monitor connected, I cannot run > > dmenu_run, it simply doesn't show up. I don't know how to give you more > > specific informati

Re: [dev] [surf] port for gtk3

2012-06-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:54:51AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: > > You must be very proud of yourself? > > Yes, it is very difficult to use a computer without bloat. It is like a > chair without a cushion. No. It is like a chair without a mass spectrometer.

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-06-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 05:27:00PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote: > [2012-06-16 17:00] Nico Golde > > > > Thanks for reminding me. ii tip contains a change now so that -k specifies > > an environment variable containing the password and not the password > > directly. > > AFAIR the environment can

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-06-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 07:14:06PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > On Jun 15, 2012 6:13 PM, "Kurt H Maier" wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 05:28:14PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > > > Why not just pass the argument from a file? > >

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-06-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 05:28:14PM -0400, Calvin Morrison wrote: > Why not just pass the argument from a file? > > Exec --flag `cat password-file` hahahah

Re: [dev] unsubscribe

2012-06-13 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 04:02:42PM +0200, hiro wrote: > Everyone who participates in unsubscribe gets the chance to win 10 Bitcoins. > I won't *not* unsuccessfully unsubscribe.

Re: [dev] static linking from cat-v on r/linux

2012-05-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:42:38AM +0200, Martin Kopta wrote: > Watch your blood pressure. > > http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/tzk5e/dynamic_linking_considered_harmful_should_distros/ > You forgot to explain why anyone should care what reddit.com has to say about anything.

Re: [dev] dwm: XKeycodeToKeysym deprecated patch

2012-05-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 07:42:07PM +0300, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote: > are you an Ubuntu user ? no, i am an adult.

Re: [dev] dwm: XKeycodeToKeysym deprecated patch

2012-05-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 03:34:25PM +0300, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote: > XKeycodeToKeysym returns faulty results in some cases/layouts. Thanks, this is the sort of information I was looking for.

Re: [dev] dwm: XKeycodeToKeysym deprecated patch

2012-05-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 01:12:58PM +0100, Rob wrote: > You were arguing that it's bad because it's the "latest" mandate. No, I'm arguing that it's bad because it introduces more shit, and nobody has yet been able to explain what benefit that cost brings. > I call subtle trolling I call terrible

Re: [dev] dwm: XKeycodeToKeysym deprecated patch

2012-05-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 09:52:10PM -0400, James Turner wrote: > > XKBlib.h has been around since 1993 is an extra header file really that > bad? Are you arguing that it's good code because it's old code?

Re: [dev] dwm: XKeycodeToKeysym deprecated patch

2012-05-15 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 09:41:46PM -0400, James Turner wrote: > XKeycodeToKeysym was deprecated on 2011-10-10 [0]. The included patch > updates dwm.c to use XkbKeycodeToKeysym instead. Is there any benefit to this other than introducing xkb as a dependency? We don't all run dwm on the latest free

Re: [dev] Introducing SLUT (Suckless Linux Using a Tablet)

2012-05-09 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 05:09:06PM +0200, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > On 2012-05-09 15:40, Peter Hartman wrote: > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Pierre Chapuis > > wrote: > >> You should change the name before Internet drama > >> occurs. > > > > Don't tell me there's a SLUT.exe that is in competit

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-04-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 02:52:17AM +0300, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote: > dah > > $ ps e -C ii | grep -o "IIPASS=[^ ]*" > IIPASS="foobar" I am mildly convinced that other users cannot see env data with ps -e. I am also vaguely determined that on linux this information comes from /proc/$PID/environ

Re: [dev] recommend suckless mail server

2012-04-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:18:41PM +0200, sta...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest a suckless mail server? > > We need encrypted IMAP and SMTP. Or a suckless tool chain which achieves > the above (e.g. instead SSL aware IMAP server, rsync a maildir from > server machine to local

Re: [dev] simple dhcp client

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 05:40:31PM -0500, Galos, David wrote: > I've written a simple (~500 lines) dhcp client, using the plan9 client > as reference. It compiles statically to between 8 and 30K depending > on libc, and gets me onto all the networks I've thrown at it, but > that's a terribly small

Re: [dev] simple dhcp client

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:59:05AM +0800, Kai Hendry wrote: > I know this is very lazy of me, though it would be good if you could > have hints how to integrate it say with a typical Archlinux system and > its /etc/network.d > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netcfg > for the love of christ,

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:27:04PM +0200, Truls Becken wrote: > > So for the user they seem to have the same effect. > Perhaps 2) is partly the reason they do 1), by the way. Let's not make the fantastically naive mistake of assuming this userbase is sufficiently large to comprise a statistical u

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 08:41:14PM +0200, Truls Becken wrote: > > True, PASS is cleaner because of the delay necessary with the nickserv > message. Key as argument sucks quite a bit, though. > for those following along at home, PASS has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with nickserv or any of this other

Re: [dev] [ii] exposed password on process monitoring

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:05:07PM +0300, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote: > what's the difference between PASS and identify ? > both are used to register the user to the server. > afaict PASS is sent by the client before the nick/user is set > so when the user connects he's already registered. > afaik irss

Re: [dev] A tiny IRC connection tool

2012-04-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 01:43:14PM +0300, Ivan Kanakarakis wrote: > On 17 April 2012 12:45, Truls Becken wrote: > > > Two questions: > > > > Did you consider adding SSL support? > > > > > SSL would be nice :) > I would like SSL built into ii too, tbh. Why is something like stunnel not an option

Re: [dev] sbase - seq.c: help wanted

2012-04-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 05:30:05PM -0500, Galos, David wrote: > > I'm confused about why we need to use a regular expression here. We > > can do this with a few loops and some ifs. Using regexes in seq(1) > > really, really concerns me. > > It was really me being lazy-- my evil plan was to pretend

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