Re: [dev] Re: The Apollo Display Manager [very long]

2011-06-26 Thread John Yates
Connor, > The similarities between DM and Rio are actually startling; I wouldn't > be at all surprised if Rob Pike had previously seen Apollo... Very likely. The Apollo founders all had strong academic and research backgrounds. Those communities were quite tight and interacted very regularly.

Re: [dev] The Apollo Display Manager [very long]

2011-06-25 Thread John Yates
> I have no idea how I've never heard of this, The adage is that the victors get to write history. Apollo was a single company peddling a proprietary technology. At the time that it started Unix was offered only to academic institutions. There was no way to foresee that the consent decree const

[dev] The Apollo Display Manager [very long]

2011-06-24 Thread John Yates
While following the st and editor threads I felt prompted to put down these reminiscences. My hope is that they will stimulate the discussion. /john INTRODUCTION Many years ago I worked at Apollo Computer.[APOLLO] This was before X, NFS, Sun workstations or Apple Macintoshes; when Unix typica

Re: [dev] [st] bold as bright (again)

2011-04-01 Thread John Yates
Particularly small fixed size fonts lack legible bold variants. In such cases brightening is a very adequate substitute. /john

Re: [dev] [st] bold as bright (again)

2011-04-01 Thread John Yates
> Me too, FWIW. Me three. /john

Re: [dev] Recent vain attempts at suckless Web applications

2011-01-20 Thread John Yates
oated non-modular Bash >> :) But that's a matter of opinion. > > If that's your only metric, you should pay a calligrapher to write it > out on a nice piece of parchment so you can frame it for easy reading. > > > -- > # Kurt H Maier > > -- John Yates 257 Nashoba Rd Concord, MA 01742 978 371-4923

Re: [dev] The mysterious 31

2010-08-04 Thread John Yates
David, You are correct on many counts. Our divergent domains of development definitely colors our biases. I work with high end out of order processors. The Intel Core i7 has a multiply latency of 3 cycles and can issue a new multiply into the pipeline every cycle. It has a worst case integer d

Re: [dev] The mysterious 31

2010-08-04 Thread John Yates
Here are two useful references: http://bretm.home.comcast.net/hash/ http://burtleburtle.net/bob/hash/ RE computation cost: Generalized integer multiplication and integer division both used to be expensive. On modern processors a multiplication is fully pipelined and comparable to an L1 data

Re: [dev] [st] a real (I think) feature request

2009-11-01 Thread John Yates
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:52 AM, John A. Grahor wrote: > I'd like a terminal emulator that has a "dumb" terminal mode, i.e. where > line editing can happen locally and what one types is only sent to the tty > when one hits return (or some other key). Two decades ago I fell in love with Apollo Com

Re: [dev] Re: [dwm] dmenu + xft

2009-05-21 Thread John Yates
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Mate Nagy wrote: >  attached is a variation on John Yates' dmenu xft patch that actually > works (fixed segfault on exit, plus you can actually choose fonts other > than the default). Thanks Mate. /john