Re: [dev] Languages that suck (was "Note On Webkit Versions")

2016-05-03 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: > rust is better than go, or the other way around? I'm not arguing for, or against either. I use Go and like and dislike different aspects of it. I've written, maybe, 200 lines in rust so it's premature to comment on that... I will say that

Re: [dev] Languages that suck (was "Note On Webkit Versions")

2016-05-02 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 03:47:06PM +0200, Leo Gaspard wrote: > > On 05/02/2016 04:40 AM, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: > > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Timothy Rice wrote: > > >>> [...] > > > > > > > > > When you want to

Re: [dev] Re: [farbfeld] announce

2015-11-17 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Random832 wrote: > FRIGN writes: >> Hello fellow hackers, >> >> I'm very glad to announce farbfeld to the public, a lossless image >> format as a successor to "imagefile" with a better name and some >> format-changes reflecting experiences I made since imagefile

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Alexander Huemer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 01:23:46PM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> Who are we talking about? *I* use free software. Despite that, I can't >> fully trust what my computer is doing, because I can't verify the

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Peter Hofmann wrote: > Hi OP, > > yeah, I read your posting on the list. I was curious to see what others > suggested on this topic. Unfortunately, the discussion went off-topic > pretty soon. :-/ My apologies for my role in that. > > I'm still replying on the li

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Martti Kühne wrote: >> Who are we talking about? *I* use free software. Despite that, I can't >> fully trust what my computer is doing, because I can't verify the >> hardware the software runs on isn't doing something malicious. I also >> can't verify that my hardw

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Alexander Huemer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:49:46AM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Huemer >> wrote: >> >> >> Direct observation. Go to any conference (I've only b

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Huemer wrote: >> Direct observation. Go to any conference (I've only been to >> conferences in the US, so YMMV), or Meetup, and witness the number of >> glowing Apples staring back at you. >> Ask any of my friends / coworkers who were GNU/Linux users wh

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Nick wrote: > Quoth Andrew Gwozdziewycz: >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Alexander Huemer >> > Or do you have some concrete example I do not grasp at the moment? >> > At least the people I know who are using OSX do not even know wh

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
for you, dwm is like 2,000 lines of fairly readable C, and not all that complicated. I haven't looked, but you might also find a patch to get you started here: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/ > On 19. oktober 2014 at 7:17 PM, "Andrew Gwozdziewycz" wrote: >> >>On Octob

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-21 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Alexander Huemer wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:14:32AM +, orangepri...@hushmail.com wrote: >> If anything, Apple's dominance has made people familiar with the Unix >> command-line, which is certainly better than had they been using >> Windows. > >

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-19 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On October 19, 2014 1:51:37 PM EDT, orangepri...@hushmail.com wrote: >>I don't know why you would want that. > >Partly because I want to keep things simple, partly because of >nostalgia, and partly because I think SGI Irix was coolest thing ever. Why not patch dwm to draw the appropriate decorat

Re: [dev] Simple, suckless syslogd?

2014-07-09 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Dimitris Papastamos wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:40:38PM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> I'm looking for a very simple and suckless syslogd. What do people on >> this list use for this purpose? > > It has been on my mind recen

[dev] Simple, suckless syslogd?

2014-07-08 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
I'm looking for a very simple and suckless syslogd. What do people on this list use for this purpose?

Re: [dev] [scron] simple cron daemon

2014-07-02 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On July 2, 2014 5:34:10 AM EDT, Ari Malinen wrote: >I made cron daemon because vixie-cron was too complex for my taste. It >does the job for me. Maybe someone finds use for it. > >features: >schedule tasks >single daemon, config and initscript >log job output: command &>> /var/log/cron.log >run

Re: [dev] suckless distro

2014-06-24 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Dimitris Papastamos wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 09:44:05AM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM, grayfox wrote: >> > Hey, >> > >> > i used Arch for some years but changed to Gentoo

Re: [dev] suckless distro

2014-06-23 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM, grayfox wrote: > Hey, > > i used Arch for some years but changed to Gentoo this week. It's not > really BSD-equivalent by default but with some time you can do > everything you want very easily. Moreover I like the USE-flag concept > to compile just the things I re

Re: [dev] Lightweight, non-bloated, fast image viewer?

2014-06-14 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On June 14, 2014 8:52:39 AM EDT, FRIGN wrote: >On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:42:00 +0200 >Markus Wichmann wrote: > >> So, having one program that reads some standardized input and >displays >> it on screen, while another program converts any given image file to >> that standardized format may be more

Re: [dev] tiny pdf viewer (with vim key shortcuts)

2014-05-01 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Nick wrote: > Quoth Anthony J. Bentley: >> MuPDF is nice but has a disgusting license (AGPL). > > I second that, I like mupdf very much. I quite like the license, > too, no doubt controversially. I'm not sure why a pdf reader would need the benefits of the AGPL, wh

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-13 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
Samuel Holland wrote: >>> On Dec 12, 2013, at 4:10 PM, "Fernando C.V." >wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Fernando C.V. >wrote: >>> This way could do something like: >>> >>> $ when -t ssh host xmessage DONE! >> >> Well... even if you didn't prompt it to the user interactively

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Kai Hendry wrote: > RSS is dead. why bother? Why bother? The troves of people who cried at Google Reader shutting down would say otherwise. RSS is "dying" because companies like Google, Facebook, Twitter want to *own* the flow of information, and they can't do t

Re: [dev] alternatives to find for querying the filesystem

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bobby Powers wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >>>> $ time find / | grep 'bin' > /dev/null >>>> real0m8.122s >>

Re: [dev] alternatives to find for querying the filesystem

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bobby Powers wrote: > Hello, > > Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >>> $ time find / | grep 'bin' > /dev/null >>> real0m8.122s >>> user0m3.101s >>> sys 0m2.519s >>> >>> $ time f

Re: [dev] alternatives to find for querying the filesystem

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
Huge copy paste fail! > Also, just for kicks I ran a comparison: > > $ time find / | grep 'bin' > /dev/null > real0m8.122s > user0m3.101s > sys 0m2.519s > > $ time find / -regex 'bin' | grep > real0m18.795s > user0m3.394s > sys 0m3.401s That should have been $ time find

Re: [dev] alternatives to find for querying the filesystem

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Troels Henriksen wrote: > Troels Henriksen writes: > >> Andrew Gwozdziewycz writes: >> >>> Assume that each filter halves the fileset of, say, 256 files (my /etc >>> directory on this OSX machine has just 247 files). That&

Re: [dev] alternatives to find for querying the filesystem

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Chris Down wrote: > On 2013-12-12 14:32:03 -0500, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> So, to find all files in /etc modified within the last hour... >> >> walk /etc | agep -1H - >> >> Or, >> >> walk /etc | xargs agep -

[dev] alternatives to find for querying the filesystem

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
find(1) seems very un-unixy, but it's very powerful. Let's assume for a minute that find didn't exist. How would you do the following: 1. execute a command for each file (find . -exec whatever {} \;) 2. find files that are > 8M 3. find files that are older than 20 days 4. find all files that a

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Truls Becken wrote: > On 2013-12-12, at 13:28, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > >> Are you suggesting that the shell handle the command after the &&? >> Or you let the subshell I spawn do it? > > The shell would handle the com

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-12 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Truls Becken wrote: > On 2013-12-12 at 04:54, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > >> On 2013-12-11 at 19:08, Fernando C.V. wrote: >> >>> Sounds like a little nice useful utility, even thoguh I don't like >>> that the commands have

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Patrick <201009-suckl...@haller.ws> wrote: > On 2013-12-11 22:46, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Charlie Kester >> wrote: >> > Maybe I'm have a dumb day (it happens, all too often), but is there

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Fernando C.V. wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Fernando C.V. wrote: >> $ { ssh user@host &; } && xmessage connected > > Whoops, it's: > > $ { ssh user@host & } && xmessage connected > > Btw, what "when" does is that it considers that the program is r

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 11 Dec 2013 at 13:30:11 PST Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> >> >> Using -t, you can notify when the longrunningscript is actually still >> running. So it's very useful if you have something that fail

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
it's very useful if you have something that fails repeatedly and get an alert when it actually starts. > On 11 December 2013 11:31, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> If you've used watch(1) you know that running a command repeatedly is >> useful. What I

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Patrick <201009-suckl...@haller.ws> wrote: > On 2013-12-11 12:21, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> Yes. You can do exactly that. But you *can't* do: Sorry, I shouldn't have said *can't*, since I knew it was *possible.* >>

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
t's what I'm going for. > On 12/11/13 at 07:32pm, Dimitris Zervas wrote: >> @nicholas: Sorry, I didn't see your email! >> @Andrew:oh, that's nice! >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Nicholas Hall wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> I wondered if I could do it in shell, but figured it might be too >> tricky to do concisely > > $ while ! command; do continue; done; xmessage 're

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Patrick <201009-suckl...@haller.ws> wrote: > On 2013-12-11 11:31, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> Maybe one of you will stop laughing long enough to find it useful. > > So why isn't this a standard unix utility? I'm certainly not sma

[dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
Hey all, If you've used watch(1) you know that running a command repeatedly is useful. What I wished for yesterday though, is for a mechanism that notified me when a command succeeded, but is long running -- say an ssh session. I wondered if I could do it in shell, but figured it might be too tri

Re: [dev] suckless shell prompt?

2013-11-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
> Thanks, I will read up on the links I don't know yet. > And many thanks for a constructive post! ;) I'm just trying to do my best to make this mailing list suckless.

Re: [dev] suckless shell prompt?

2013-11-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Markus Teich wrote: > Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:29 AM, FRIGN wrote: >>> I honestly had to smile when I read the code :). >>> However, I don't consider this good coding-style and there are quit

Re: [dev] suckless shell prompt?

2013-11-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:29 AM, FRIGN wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:44:01 +0100 > Martti Kühne wrote: >> >> Staring at the code in horror. >> Something about git and nyancat. >> Without running the code - I have trust issues from similar occasions >> - you're kidding, right? >> >> cheers! >> m

Re: [dev] lisp

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Alexander Sedov wrote: > 2013/6/29 oneofthem : > > is there any reason why lisp isn't mentioned much in the suckless > > community? > > considered irrelevant, harmful or what? > I personally consider it irrelevant. People just don't actually write > in Lisp, because

Re: [dev] lisp

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Craig Brozefsky wrote: > Andrew Gwozdziewycz writes: > > >Lisps are loaded with this sort of stuff, and while I love it, and > >enjoy using them thinking about them, reading about them, they just > >aren't practical fo

Re: [dev] lisp

2013-06-30 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Louis-Guillaume Gagnon < louis.guillaume.gag...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2013/6/29 Andrew Gwozdziewycz : > > I don't speak for the suckless community, but despite the fact that I > love > > it, Lisp is complicated and not very simple at a

Re: [dev] lisp

2013-06-30 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Craig Brozefsky wrote: > Andrew Gwozdziewycz writes: > > >I don't speak for the suckless community, but despite the fact that I > >love it, Lisp is complicated and not very simple at all, which I'm > >guessing i

Re: [dev] lisp

2013-06-29 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
I don't speak for the suckless community, but despite the fact that I love it, Lisp is complicated and not very simple at all, which I'm guessing is why you don't hear about it. I'm currently playing around with attempting to make a minimal, embeddable, unix friendly, without complications dialect,

Re: [dev] [dwmstatus] dropbox status

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
There's a python command line client for dropbox that could provide it. You'd could call out to popen(3) to grab it. So, something like: char *status[50]; FILE *f = popen("dropbox status", "r"); fgets(status, 50, f); pclose(f); would do the trick. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Re: [dev] mail clients

2013-06-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Alex Pilon wrote: > > On 11/06/13 at 09:18am, Alex Pilon wrote: > > > Any body know of a suckless method of using IMAP mostly > > > offline/disconnected? Offlineimap sucks and is brittle. > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 06:55:19PM +0400, Peter A. Shevtsov wrote: > >

Re: [dev] (s)werc and the suckless.org homepage

2013-06-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
> For a site with 50 pages, fcgi is nothing. > > > > On 11 June 2013 11:59, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > > But how often does stuff actually get updated? You can simply pregenerate > > all the content and serve it... For a site with 50 pages, that's nothing. > >

Re: [dev] (s)werc and the suckless.org homepage

2013-06-11 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
But how often does stuff actually get updated? You can simply pregenerate all the content and serve it... For a site with 50 pages, that's nothing. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:36 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > For example because people didn't want to worry about having to update > stuff th

Re: [dev] Is there any plan on a shell for sbase?

2013-05-31 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: >> P.S. Any recommendations on joining #suckless when connecting to oftc >> through tor? > >Don’t be a terrorist pedophile so don’t use tor. Only feminists, >pe‐ >dophiles and terrorists use tor. > That's pretty offensive, don't you think? There are

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Andrew Gwozdziewycz dixit: > > >Not really, given that HTML has *nothing* to do with HTTP. > > Both are overused, really. > You won't find me arguing against this statement. >Of course, you often ret

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Gregor Best wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Jacob Todd wrote: > > no. > > [...] > > Isn't it kinda ironic that this mail came as HTML? Not really, given that HTML has *nothing* to do with HTTP. Of course, you often retrieve HTML documents via