Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 08:35:33PM +0200, Laslo Hunhold wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:28:29 +0100 > Nick wrote: > > Dear Nick, > > > Any thoughts, experiences, recommendations? > > the discussion has been very fruitful. Let me share my thoughts. > > Wayland the protocol is actually rather simple

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Laslo Hunhold
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:28:29 +0100 Nick wrote: Dear Nick, > Any thoughts, experiences, recommendations? the discussion has been very fruitful. Let me share my thoughts. Wayland the protocol is actually rather simple. It's a very thin messaging layer between a compositor and clients, nothing mo

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Tobias Bengfort
Hi Nick, thanks for sharing dwl. I started writing some patches and it really feels very close to dwm. Not fully there yet, but close. also: don't feed the trolls tobias

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Nick
Quoth Страхиња Радић: > On 21/09/08 01:36, Nick wrote: > > The fact that the Jitsi devs closed > > the bug as "not much we can do on our side" doesn't mean "wayland > > broke it and we can't fix it". > > It's exactly the same thing. In this instance it isn't, maybe I should have been more verbo

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Страхиња Радић
On 21/09/08 01:36, Nick wrote: > The fact that the Jitsi devs closed > the bug as "not much we can do on our side" doesn't mean "wayland > broke it and we can't fix it". It's exactly the same thing. > the screen recording / sharing stuff - it works differently on > Wayland (for not-bad reasons

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Nick
Quoth Страхиња Радић: > On 21/09/08 12:28, Nick wrote: > > honest I found the arguments made there to be largely unconvincing, > > Any argument in particular and why? A lot of the "Wayland breaks" examples don't seem to be fairly reporting on the actual issues. The jitsi screen sharing issue, f

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Страхиња Радић
By the way, here's another article not on Github (but linked from that page): https://tildearrow.org/?p=post&month=2&year=2021&item=antihs signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Страхиња Радић
On 21/09/08 12:28, Nick wrote: > honest I found the arguments made there to be largely unconvincing, Any argument in particular and why? > * I'm thinking in particular of the repeated "emojis broke my st" > mails, caused by a bug in Xft that noone upstream seems to care much > about fixing,

Re: [dev] Wayland compositors

2021-09-08 Thread Nick
Hi Maarten et al, Many thanks for your replies, this was very handy to read. Interesting to hear that sxmo is moving in the wayland direction, too. I haven't managed to get around to actually trying wayland yet, as as ever my attention has been pulled in too many different directions. But I'l

Re: [dev] Automatic C header dependency tracking for the redo build-system

2021-09-08 Thread Sergey Matveev
*** Thomas Oltmann [2021-09-07 23:15]: >Nevertheless, these are some of the reasons I care about redo, in no >particular order: [...] Good points I support too! Also: * The whole redo build system description/rules fits on single screen, like here: http://www.goredo.cypherpunks.ru/Usage-rules.h

Re: [dev] Automatic C header dependency tracking for the redo build-system

2021-09-08 Thread Sergey Matveev
*** Thomas Oltmann [2021-09-07 22:57]: >For example, it is also able to properly recognize: [...] I see, thanks! However personally in C-projects I use https://include-what-you-use.org/ and h-extract.pl script to make depends only on local headers: whatever.do: [...] redo-ifc