Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Teodoro Santoni
2021-04-09 18:24 GMT, Sagar Acharya : > It doesn't need to be complex. Few things make enormous impact like choosing > good font, size of bars, color, connecting icons with programs, good battery > and datetime displays. A simple 1 line script can run in the background. One > would just take few im

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Sagar Acharya
>interesting article! Thanks >I think, the user's turn to try to understand them to the fullest, even if it means learning a bit of a programming language. - Laslo Majority of users in this world would never learn a low level programming language like C. They are incapable. > The solution in the

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Jeremy
On 04/09/21 10:12PM, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:07:01PM -0700, Jeremy wrote: > > On 04/09/21 09:07PM, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:24:35PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote: > > > > I have studied Engineering Physics at IIT Delhi. There, Computer > > > >

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Mattias Andrée
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:13:23 -0700 Jeremy wrote: > On 04/09/21 08:24PM, Sagar Acharya wrote: > > > > >I think, the user's turn to try to understand them to the fullest, even > > if it means learning a bit of a programming language. - Laslo > > Majority of users in this world would never learn

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:07:01PM -0700, Jeremy wrote: > On 04/09/21 09:07PM, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:24:35PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote: > > > I have studied Engineering Physics at IIT Delhi. There, Computer Science > > > guys are insane geniuses. They don't bother t

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Jeremy
On 04/09/21 09:07PM, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:24:35PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote: > > I have studied Engineering Physics at IIT Delhi. There, Computer Science > > guys are insane geniuses. They don't bother to set their system up. Very > > few do. Most use dual boot Ubun

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Jeremy
On 04/09/21 08:24PM, Sagar Acharya wrote: > > >I think, the user's turn to try to understand them to the fullest, even > if it means learning a bit of a programming language. - Laslo > Majority of users in this world would never learn a low level programming > language like C. They are incapable.

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:54:31PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote: > P.S. Shifted completely to dwm this week. Can't even think of anything > theoretically better than this! Now, try bspwm :)

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 08:24:35PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote: > I guess this is where I diverge, user centric things always work better and > have more power. More features != More power. > One can always add a few more simple things, keeping minimalism of suckless > intact. One can create dwmd

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 12:10:54PM -0400, Greg Reagle wrote: > On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, at 11:42, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > > Where do we stop, though? For me, sh (even with all its braindamage) > > Speaking of the brain damage of sh, I highly recommend rc [1] which is > available > in 9base [2] and oth

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Greg Reagle
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, at 11:42, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > Where do we stop, though? For me, sh (even with all its braindamage) Speaking of the brain damage of sh, I highly recommend rc [1] which is available in 9base [2] and other sources like Plan 9 Port. [1] http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition

[dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Sagar Acharya
I recently wrote this article https://designman.org/sagaracharya/blog/trusting_no_one being absolutely unaware about suckless and this was brought to my attention. Suckless's philosophy is hands down amazing and crucial wrt computer security. Although I'd like to point out 1 aspect. Why does su

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Edward Willis
Hello. I am new also to this mailing list, although I have read suckless.org and cat-v.org for a long time. I agree with Sagar. Simple software allows for people to use their computers for longer, which saves on waste, saves money, and is more inclusive of users who don’t have the latest and gr

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:54:31PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote: > I recently wrote this article > > https://designman.org/sagaracharya/blog/trusting_no_one > > being absolutely unaware about suckless and this was brought to my attention. > > Suckless's philosophy is hands down amazing and crucial wr

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Страхиња Радић
On 21/04/09 03:18, Laslo Hunhold wrote: > You can build software with the goal of user-friendliness in mind, but > this always comes with concessions. As long as you provide consistent > and easy to understand user-interfaces (APIs, Synopses, etc.), it is, I > think, the user's turn to try to under

Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

2021-04-09 Thread Laslo Hunhold
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:54:31 +0200 (CEST) Sagar Acharya wrote: Dear Sagar, > I recently wrote this article > > https://designman.org/sagaracharya/blog/trusting_no_one > > being absolutely unaware about suckless and this was brought to my > attention. interesting article! > Suckless's philoso