[dev] user interfaces on top of ii

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 15:33, Greg Reagle wrote: > I am not very familiar with IRC or with ii (I've used IRC very very > little). Could you recommend and IRC client that works on top of ii > that is fairly easy to use, not requiring a lot of scripting and setup > and so forth? Maybe somethin

Re: [dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread sylvain . bertrand
Hi, Out of the blue: I recently did switch from the "compiled" version of youtube-dl to the use of it's raw code straight from the git repository, because it felt starting significantly faster. (nobody should have to use youtube-dl to get the video/dash url) -- Sylvain

Re: [dev] an approach to Matrix client that sucks less

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
Thank you Laslo Hunhold for your feedback. On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 14:54, Laslo Hunhold wrote: > yes, we haven't looked into Matrix much here. I have to admit that it's > the most promising protocol out there, in my opinion. What matters for > a suckless client is the interface. Based on your o

Re: [dev] an approach to Matrix client that sucks less

2020-02-20 Thread Laslo Hunhold
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:44:19 -0500 "Greg Reagle" wrote: Dear Greg, > Hi y'all. I don't see any Matrix client at > https://suckless.org/rocks/ or https://suckless.org/other_projects/ > and I am thinking of making one. I use the Riot.im web app client > which has a lot of features, but is bloate

Re: [dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:24:22PM -0500, Greg Reagle wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 13:07, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > > A much more accurate mesure of disgust is the number of syscall made for > > such a > > simple task: > > That's very interesting, thank you. Do you know how to write a similar

Re: [dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 12:48, Eric Pruitt wrote: > One problem I see with these benchmarks is that it's not an entirely > fair comparison. For example, in Python, you're only printing some text, > but you aren't importing any modules. That's true, but I was just comparing the overhead of the int

Re: [dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 13:07, Hadrien Lacour wrote: > Why would it be "defective" other than sh or I/O adding time noise? Because I am a flawed and imperfect person who makes mistakes, and while I consider myself a competent programmer, I know that there are people here on suckless who are exp

Re: [dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:22:53PM -0500, Greg Reagle wrote: > Hello. I am amazed at how fast Lua is to start up and shut down. Is my > benchmark defective in any way? Lua seems to start up and exit faster than > bash, python, rc, and ksh. Dash and mksh are faster. These interpreters are > all p

Re: [dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread Eric Pruitt
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:22:53PM -0500, Greg Reagle wrote: > Hello. I am amazed at how fast Lua is to start up and shut down. Is my > benchmark defective in any way? Lua seems to start up and exit faster > than bash, python, rc, and ksh. Dash and mksh are faster. These > interpreters are all pack

Re: [dev] [no js web]

2020-02-20 Thread Hadrien Lacour
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 09:56:50PM +, sylvain.bertr...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > As some may already know I am sueing the french administration which recently > (a couple of years) broke the support of no js web browsers. > > The follow up would be to deal with this issue at the EU administrat

Re: [dev] [surf] can't follow a link for download

2020-02-20 Thread Reiner Herrmann
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:05:01PM -0300, Renato A. Galvão wrote: > >>> surf: execvp x-terminal-emulator failed: Permission denied > > There is an apparmor file, > > /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.surf > [...] > /usr/bin/stterm ix, In the past st was shipped in the stterm package with only an stterm

[dev] startup time of some interpreters

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
Hello. I am amazed at how fast Lua is to start up and shut down. Is my benchmark defective in any way? Lua seems to start up and exit faster than bash, python, rc, and ksh. Dash and mksh are faster. These interpreters are all packages from Debian Stable 10 "Buster". /usr/bin/time sh -c 'for i i

[dev] an approach to Matrix client that sucks less

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
Hi y'all. I don't see any Matrix client at https://suckless.org/rocks/ or https://suckless.org/other_projects/ and I am thinking of making one. I use the Riot.im web app client which has a lot of features, but is bloated. Do any of you know of a Matrix client that is not bloated? I have looke

Re: [dev] [surf] can't follow a link for download

2020-02-20 Thread Renato A . Galvão
2020-02-20 11:33 GMT-03:00, Renato A. Galvão : > 2020-02-20 10:35 GMT-03:00, Greg Reagle : >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 08:26, Renato A. Galvão wrote: >>> I use the packaged version buster (stable) of surf in Debian. >>> >>> While trying to make any download I'm receiving this: >>> >>> surf: execvp

Re: [dev] [surf] can't follow a link for download

2020-02-20 Thread Renato A . Galvão
2020-02-20 10:35 GMT-03:00, Greg Reagle : > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 08:26, Renato A. Galvão wrote: >> I use the packaged version buster (stable) of surf in Debian. >> >> While trying to make any download I'm receiving this: >> >> surf: execvp x-terminal-emulator failed: Permission denied > > Run t

Re: [dev] [surf] can't follow a link for download

2020-02-20 Thread Greg Reagle
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, at 08:26, Renato A. Galvão wrote: > I use the packaged version buster (stable) of surf in Debian. > > While trying to make any download I'm receiving this: > > surf: execvp x-terminal-emulator failed: Permission denied Run the command x-terminal-emulator from a shell prompt

Re: [dev] [surf] can't follow a link for download

2020-02-20 Thread Quentin Rameau
> Dear developers, Hi Renato, > I use the packaged version buster (stable) of surf in Debian. > > While trying to make any download I'm receiving this: > > surf: execvp x-terminal-emulator failed: Permission denied This seems to be a Debian issue, surf uses "st" terminal emulator by default, i

[dev] [surf] can't follow a link for download

2020-02-20 Thread Renato A . Galvão
Dear developers, I use the packaged version buster (stable) of surf in Debian. While trying to make any download I'm receiving this: surf: execvp x-terminal-emulator failed: Permission denied