Re: [dev] [discussion] editors

2016-10-05 Thread pranomestro
> So, which editor do you use and what features do you need, > if any? Mostly sam (the updated fork from https://github.com/deadpixi/sam) and ed for commit messages. I can't be bothered with writing an own vi/vis/vim layout for the keyboard layout I use (neo2). pranomostro

Re: [dev] [discussion] editors

2016-10-05 Thread Cág
Joseph Graham wrote: Hi! I am quite strange because I use both VIM and GNU Emacs. Emacs for programming and VIM for general use (such as typing this email, editing config files). You are quite strange not typing this email with Emacs and Gnus (: VIM is really hard to use which makes it pre

Re: [dev] [discussion] editors

2016-10-05 Thread Cág
Ingo Krabbe wrote: Actually I stopped using vim, when I learned to use plan9. That time, when I worked from a linux system I used ed, even for bigger projects and I still think that ed is a very considerable editor, that can do line numbers any time and any where you want them and yes, for fun.

Re: [dev] [discussion] editors

2016-10-05 Thread Joseph Graham
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 08:16:21PM +0100, Cág wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have been a long-time user of vi-like editors. > Started with vim+tmux and nerdtree, then threw away tmux > and nerdtree, then I understood that I don't need syntax > highlighting and moved to nvi. Now I think line numbers >

Re: [dev] [discussion] editors

2016-10-05 Thread Ingo Krabbe
Hey Cág, yet another editor discussion. Great :D Actually I stopped using vim, when I learned to use plan9. That time, when I worked from a linux system I used ed, even for bigger projects and I still think that ed is a very considerable editor, that can do line numbers any time and any where

[dev] [discussion] editors

2016-10-05 Thread Cág
Hi everyone, I have been a long-time user of vi-like editors. Started with vim+tmux and nerdtree, then threw away tmux and nerdtree, then I understood that I don't need syntax highlighting and moved to nvi. Now I think line numbers are not necessary, too. And sometimes I even write code in ed, th

Re: [dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Ingo Krabbe
Actually I neither undestand the joke, nor the setting. For my usage it seems best to set both values to 0. What do you want to achieve with these defaults? For me it just makes unmodified manual pages without the described manpager, or LESS_TERMCAP_* exports unreadable. > On Wed, Oct 5, 2016

Re: [dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Martin Kühne
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Lucas Gabriel Vuotto wrote: > $ echo '140,146p' | ed config.def.h > 20475 > /* > * Colors used, when the specific fg == defaultfg. So in reverse mode this > * will reverse too. Another logic would only make the simple feature too > * complex. > */ > static unsig

Re: [dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Lucas Gabriel Vuotto
$ echo '140,146p' | ed config.def.h 20475 /* * Colors used, when the specific fg == defaultfg. So in reverse mode this * will reverse too. Another logic would only make the simple feature too * complex. */ static unsigned int defaultitalic = 11; static unsigned int defaultunderline = 7; On 05

Re: [dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Ingo Krabbe
> Actually "tput ncf" says "3", which means that the italic attribute cannot be > used with colors. But that is a lie. I would say, the italic attribute can > only be used with colors. I just found out that ncv=3 (sorry ncv, not ncf) means STANDOUT and REVERSE cannot be combined with colors, b

Re: [dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Martin Kühne
Hi Try to keep things short. > I'm not sure yet if OpenRC is really much better than systemd, though, so if > I would need to choose today I might switch to a plain debian, that I often > use on servers. We don't need to discuss these things here [0]. > Gentoo has a little trick... As a matt

Re: [dev] Good Morning,

2016-10-05 Thread Greg Reagle
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016, at 07:54, Ingo Krabbe wrote: > Did you load "TERM=st-256color" ? $ env | grep TERM TERM=st-256color

Re: [dev] Good Morning,

2016-10-05 Thread Ingo Krabbe
Did you load "TERM=st-256color" ? > I can confirm that on my system (Debian stable) with the latest st (just > ran a git pull and rebuilt), that when i is 7, the color changes. > > for i in `seq 0 255` > do tput setaf $i > tput sitm > echo -n $i ": Test it!" > tput

Re: [dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Greg Reagle
I can confirm that on my system (Debian stable) with the latest st (just ran a git pull and rebuilt), that when i is 7, the color changes. for i in `seq 0 255` do tput setaf $i tput sitm echo -n $i ": Test it!" tput ritm echo "Test it!" done

[dev] Good Morning, and a question about st (italic mode switches color).

2016-10-05 Thread Ingo Krabbe
Hey suckless developers, first let me thank you for your great work. dwm and st have become my main linux tools as a base to control nearly everything, as long I don't switch to my plan9 virtual machine and do things in rc terminals or acme windows. But today a bug in st burned some hours. So l