Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread FRIGN
On Thu, 12 May 2016 02:33:41 +0200 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: Good morning hiro, > let's maintain a list of of requirements a distro should fulfill. > perhaps we can make a nice table afterwards and see which OS fits > these requirements out of the box. > i'll start with this. convince me oth

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Alex Pilon
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 02:33:41AM +0200, hiro wrote: > 9. hip applications have to run out of the box: skype, Corporate need? 'd say Hangouts, and let the browser do it for one less package, and better Linux quality anyway. > chrome, Chromium. > openoffice, No pref libre/open? > mplayer, mp

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread hiro
let's maintain a list of of requirements a distro should fulfill. perhaps we can make a nice table afterwards and see which OS fits these requirements out of the box. i'll start with this. convince me otherwise. 1. package system: packages having few, sane dependencies (early tinycorelinux was exc

Re: [dev] [sup] Bring the simple user privilege escalation tool back home?

2016-05-11 Thread David Phillips
I would like to see the bugs suckless's sup examined and fixed. Looking at the current state of our sup, it is already too featureful for me, so the bloat jaromil promises is a big no. This discussion caused me to evaluate sudo for myself. Needless to say, it would be nice to see sup fixed up so I

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Louis Santillan
There's also CRUX [0] and tinycorelinux [1]. CRUX has more of a BSD-style init system feel. There's also a CruxEX [2] which includes a DE. However, I need to spin up a VM of AlpineLinux and see what it's all about. [0] https://crux.nu/ [1] http://tinycorelinux.net/ [2] http://cruxex.exton.net/

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Marc Collin
Arch Linux was suckless maybe in 2008. Today it's messy, confused and bloated. For once, it was one of the first distributions to embrace Systemd. I think these emails about "what's a suckless distribution" are always bad, but I'll give my advice (research is on you). >From most usable to least us

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 11 May 2016 at 06:56, Nick wrote: > Hi folks, > > A few nights ago my too-expensive laptop met with too-cheap wine and now > it is a far-too-expensive brick. As it's therefore time for me to > install a new OS on a new laptop, I was wondering what people would > recommend. I've been using Debia

Re: [dev] Re: Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread parazyd
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Nick wrote: > Devuan I had not heard of. Sounds nice, and the dyne people seem to be > very good people, but I wonder whether it suffers the problems above of > being scarily small. Maybe not, if they mostly just use Debian's repos, > I don't know. parazyd, any comment on that

Re: [dev] Re: Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Nick
Thanks for the replies folks. I would love to give OpenBSD a try, but the laptop I'm getting is rather new and fancy, and I suspect not all of it would be supported. Plus it's a new ecosystem and I don't have the time to learn it all at the moment (this is my work machine, too). I'll have to learn

Re: [dev] Re: Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Josuah 'sshbio' Demangeon
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:21:44AM -0300, Alba Pompeo wrote: > Alpine Linux. I was about to ask about Alpine Linux. I am very glad to see it in this list, and had _a few_ issues with it, and only 1 that I could not overcome, even if I do not have a large knowledge. > - musl libc > - busybox util

Re: [dev] Re: Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Alba Pompeo
Alpine Linux. - musl libc - busybox utils (they said they will migrate to sbase/ubase when ready) - openrc (they will migrate to s6 next year) - "Small. Simple. Secure." slogan - Philosophy similar to suckless http://www.alpinelinux.org/about/ On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Rubén Llorente wr

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread parazyd
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Nick wrote: > Hi folks, > > A few nights ago my too-expensive laptop met with too-cheap wine and now > it is a far-too-expensive brick. As it's therefore time for me to > install a new OS on a new laptop, I was wondering what people would > recommend. I've been using Debian S

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Aditya Goturu
I actually asked juan rp about that plist thing, he said it was because he had experience with it on netbsd with proplib, which he then ported as portable proplib: https://github.com/xtraeme/portableproplib. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-05-11 12:56 GMT+02

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Roy Lemmon
Hi, I am very happy using Arch. It is a rolling release but I have found it very stable if you update often and take care of the AUR packages. Cheers Roy. 0n 05/11, Nick wrote: Hi folks, A few nights ago my too-expensive laptop met with too-cheap wine and now it is a far-too-expensive brick.

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Hi, 2016-05-11 12:56 GMT+02:00, Nick : > Hi folks, > > A few nights ago my too-expensive laptop met with too-cheap wine and now > it is a far-too-expensive brick. As it's therefore time for me to > install a new OS on a new laptop, I was wondering what people would > recommend. I've been using Deb

Re: [dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 11 May 2016 11:56:41 +0100 Nick wrote: Hey Nick, > A few nights ago my too-expensive laptop met with too-cheap wine and now > it is a far-too-expensive brick. As it's therefore time for me to > install a new OS on a new laptop, I was wondering what people would > recommend. I've been usi

[dev] Linux distros that don't suck too too much

2016-05-11 Thread Nick
Hi folks, A few nights ago my too-expensive laptop met with too-cheap wine and now it is a far-too-expensive brick. As it's therefore time for me to install a new OS on a new laptop, I was wondering what people would recommend. I've been using Debian Stable for years now, which while it sucks does