Re: [dev] Is Wayland really a solution to X11 cruft?

2015-10-30 Thread hiro
>From the stuff you list that i do know about 3D rendering, cups, sane, policykit, consolekit, pulseaudio and systemd are not required for desktop environments. Where can I find the thoughtwork you claim existed at the start? That programs work programatically doesn't need extra notion I think. On

Re: [dev] Is Wayland really a solution to X11 cruft?

2015-10-30 Thread hiro
To answer your question: Not at all.

Re: [dev] Is Wayland really a solution to X11 cruft?

2015-10-30 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Good evening 2015-10-30 14:57 GMT+01:00, Marc Collin : > They don't see to know what they are trying to "fix" in the first place. > How about reimplementations of Xorg that actually sucks less? > Like https://github.com/idunham/tinyxserver for example (really far > from being suckless, but looks l

Re: [dev] Is Wayland really a solution to X11 cruft?

2015-10-30 Thread Louis Santillan
Nano-X Window System [0][1]. It's really nice that tinyxserver builds with musl. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwindows [1] http://www.microwindows.org/ On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Amadeus Folego wrote: > Marc, see: > > http://blog.mecheye.net/2012/06/the-linux-graphics-stack/#ren

Re: [dev] Is Wayland really a solution to X11 cruft?

2015-10-30 Thread Amadeus Folego
Marc, see: http://blog.mecheye.net/2012/06/the-linux-graphics-stack/#rendering-stack You'll notice how the architecture can't be improved without rewriting the whole application. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:57:41AM -0200, Marc Collin wrote: > They don't see to know what they are trying to "fix" i

[dev] Is Wayland really a solution to X11 cruft?

2015-10-30 Thread Marc Collin
They don't see to know what they are trying to "fix" in the first place. How about reimplementations of Xorg that actually sucks less? Like https://github.com/idunham/tinyxserver for example (really far from being suckless, but looks like a start).