Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Alexander Huemer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 01:23:46PM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> Who are we talking about? *I* use free software. Despite that, I can't >> fully trust what my computer is doing, because I can't verify the >> hardware the software ru

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Alexander Huemer
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 01:23:46PM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > Who are we talking about? *I* use free software. Despite that, I can't > fully trust what my computer is doing, because I can't verify the > hardware the software runs on isn't doing something malicious. I also > can't verify th

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread random832
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014, at 14:01, Peter Hofmann wrote: > I'm pretty sure that most people on the list will agree on this being > just plain crazy. :-) It's a hack, it's ugly and it's anything but > suckless. > > I won't go into further detail. This causes many, many problems. The > only reason why d

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Peter Hofmann wrote: > Hi OP, > > yeah, I read your posting on the list. I was curious to see what others > suggested on this topic. Unfortunately, the discussion went off-topic > pretty soon. :-/ My apologies for my role in that. > > I'm still replying on the li

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Martti Kühne wrote: >> Who are we talking about? *I* use free software. Despite that, I can't >> fully trust what my computer is doing, because I can't verify the >> hardware the software runs on isn't doing something malicious. I also >> can't verify that my hardw

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Peter Hofmann
Hi OP, yeah, I read your posting on the list. I was curious to see what others suggested on this topic. Unfortunately, the discussion went off-topic pretty soon. :-/ I'm still replying on the list, though, because I think that this explanation might be interesting for others. On Wed, Oct 22, 20

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Martti Kühne
> Who are we talking about? *I* use free software. Despite that, I can't > fully trust what my computer is doing, because I can't verify the > hardware the software runs on isn't doing something malicious. I also > can't verify that my hardware isn't emitting signals that some > malicious person is

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Alexander Huemer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:49:46AM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Huemer >> wrote: >> >> >> Direct observation. Go to any conference (I've only been to >> >> conferences in the US, so YMM

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Alexander Huemer
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:49:46AM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Huemer > wrote: > > >> Direct observation. Go to any conference (I've only been to > >> conferences in the US, so YMMV), or Meetup, and witness the number of > >> glowing Apples star

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Huemer wrote: >> Direct observation. Go to any conference (I've only been to >> conferences in the US, so YMMV), or Meetup, and witness the number of >> glowing Apples staring back at you. >> Ask any of my friends / coworkers who were GNU/Linux users wh

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Bigby James
On 10/22, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:42 PM, wrote: > >> Why not patch dwm to draw the appropriate decorations around windows? > >> It can't be that difficult to do, and the code base is easy enough to > >> navigate... > > > > Hi, > > > > By patching do you mean confi

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Alexander Huemer
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:11:28PM -0400, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Alexander Huemer > wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:14:32AM +, orangepri...@hushmail.com wrote: > >> If anything, Apple's dominance has made people familiar with the Unix >

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Nick wrote: > Quoth Andrew Gwozdziewycz: >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Alexander Huemer >> > Or do you have some concrete example I do not grasp at the moment? >> > At least the people I know who are using OSX do not even know what a >> > terminal emulator is

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:42 PM, wrote: >> Why not patch dwm to draw the appropriate decorations around windows? >> It can't be that difficult to do, and the code base is easy enough to >> navigate... > > Hi, > > By patching do you mean configuring some file or actually modifying dwm's > code

Re: [dev] SGI Irix look (4Dwm)

2014-10-22 Thread Nick
Quoth Andrew Gwozdziewycz: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Alexander Huemer > > Or do you have some concrete example I do not grasp at the moment? > > At least the people I know who are using OSX do not even know what a > > terminal emulator is, let alone that there is one on their machines. >