Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Chris Down
On 22 May 2013 22:27, G David Modica wrote: > > On 11:06 Wed 22 May , Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > How about: > > > > script man foo q exit > > > gdm@gdmThink ~$ script man foo q exit > bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' > gdm@gdmThink ~$ I'm not sure whether to laugh or c

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread 7heo
On 05/22/2013 04:27 PM, G David Modica wrote: Guilty, systemd is one of the banes of my existence but I've not found anything I like better than Arch. Search again. -- 7heo

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Leon Winter
Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Doing anything else (well, file download is also okay), > such as this XMLRPC crap, or even tunneling, over HTTP > instead of just using plain TCP is probably the thing > the original poster disagreed with. Me too, btw… it’s > an illness of the age of the “webdesigner” ☹

Re: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Leon Winter
There are quite a few problems with HTTP like you cannot parse it because the grammer allows anything, most importantly: - Multiple HTTP Accept Headers (with empty entries) allowed - Newline or Carriage Return or both or whatever Because of this great flexibility you can enjoy undeterministic res

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Andrew Gwozdziewycz dixit: > > >Not really, given that HTML has *nothing* to do with HTTP. > > Both are overused, really. > You won't find me arguing against this statement. >Of course, you often retrieve HTML documents via HTTP > > Doin

Re: [dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Andreas Krennmair
* Thorsten Glaser [2013-05-22 22:29]: AFAIK they mandate that XHTML be served as application/xml+xhtml instead of text/html, which the XHTML standard itself says to use for compatibility reasons (they also try to weasel in the application/xml+xhtml content type, but realise it won’t work). Nice

[dev] Re: Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Andrew Gwozdziewycz dixit: >Not really, given that HTML has *nothing* to do with HTTP. Both are overused, really. >Of course, you often retrieve HTML documents via HTTP Doing anything else (well, file download is also okay), such as this XMLRPC crap, or even tunneling, over HTTP instead of just

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Jacob Todd
yes; gmail changed my preferences again. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Gregor Best wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Jacob Todd wrote: >> no. >> [...] > > Isn't it kinda ironic that this mail came as HTML? > > -- > Gregor Best >

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Gregor Best wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Jacob Todd wrote: > > no. > > [...] > > Isn't it kinda ironic that this mail came as HTML? Not really, given that HTML has *nothing* to do with HTTP. Of course, you often retrieve HTML documents via

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Gregor Best
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Jacob Todd wrote: > no. > [...] Isn't it kinda ironic that this mail came as HTML? -- Gregor Best

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Jacob Todd
no. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Thomas Dean <78...@web.de> wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 20:37:47 +0200, seb.cato wrote: > > I'm not a hater most of the time though. HTTP and by extension the > > web is quite organic. It's like a rain forest. There's a lot of > > things in there, and a l

Re: SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Thomas Dean
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 20:37:47 +0200, seb.cato wrote: > I'm not a hater most of the time though. HTTP and by extension the > web is quite organic. It's like a rain forest. There's a lot of > things in there, and a lot of it is redundant and some things serves > no real purpose, but at the same ti

SV: [dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread seb.cato
I don't know about the author, but I think the whole web application stack of today is overly complex.  Auth can be done in request headers, POST-data or even as a part of the URI in a GET request, if you want to.  HTTP state management... You know, GET requests were supposed to not have any e

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
G David Modica dixit: >On 11:06 Wed 22 May , Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> How about: >> >> script man foo q exit >gdm@gdmThink ~$ script man foo q exit >bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' >gdm@gdmThink ~$ This is something to print out, frame and hang on the wall. … Hon

[dev] Why HTTP is so bad?

2013-05-22 Thread Szymon Olewniczak
On the http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ I've found very interesting statment about HTTP: "or best of all: don't use HTTP". Can someone explain me why the author claims that? What is bad in http? Regards, Szymon

Re: [dev] [st] [solved] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread G David Modica
On 13:16 Wed 22 May , Maximilian Dietrich wrote: > I had the same problem. I fixed it by changing defaultitalic and > defaultunderline in the st config to a readable color. > > Cheers, > Maximilian D. That is it! Thank you all.

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread G David Modica
On 11:06 Wed 22 May , Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Fernando C.V. dixit: > > >rendered, but unreadable.. can you copy-paste the invisible spaces > >between the "[-c ]"? > > How about: > > script man foo q exit > gdm@gdmThink ~$ script man foo q exit bash: syntax error near unexpected

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread G David Modica
On 11:56 Wed 22 May , Fernando C.V. wrote: > Maybe you altered your st colors somehow and the highlights make the > characters hard to see... my guess is that the words are there > rendered, but unreadable.. can you copy-paste the invisible spaces > between the "[-c ]"? > Yes, the missing

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread G David Modica
On 11:50 Wed 22 May , Fernando C.V. wrote: > or better: > > set | grep LESS gdm@gdmThink ~$ set | grep LESS gdm@gdmThink ~$

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread G David Modica
On 11:48 Wed 22 May , Fernando C.V. wrote: > Maybe you have some custom less settings? > try this: > > echo $LESS > echo $LESS_TERMCAP_mb - $LESS_TERMCAP_md - $LESS_TERMCAP_so - > $LESS_TERMCAP_us > echo $LESS_TERMCAP_me - $LESS_TERMCAP_se - $LESS_TERMCAP_so - > $LESS_TERMCAP_ue >

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Maximilian Dietrich
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 08:52:52PM -0400, G David Modica wrote: > Hi, > > I just noticed that man pages are not rendered properly under st-0.4.1 tip. > For example in "man st" the SYNOPSYS line shows as: >st [-a] [-c ] [-f ] [-g ] [-o ] [-t ] [-w > ]

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Fernando C.V. dixit: >rendered, but unreadable.. can you copy-paste the invisible spaces >between the "[-c ]"? How about: script man foo q exit Then send in the typescript, gzip(1)d. bye, //mirabilos -- Sorry, I’m annoyed today and you came by as an Arch user. These are the perfect

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Fernando C.V.
Maybe you altered your st colors somehow and the highlights make the characters hard to see... my guess is that the words are there rendered, but unreadable.. can you copy-paste the invisible spaces between the "[-c ]"? (sorry for the 3 mails in a row... I just I kept thinking about it) --

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Fernando C.V.
or better: set | grep LESS -- Fernando On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Fernando C.V. wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:23 AM, G David Modica > wrote: >> I believe it defaults to "less". > > Maybe you have some custom less settings? > try this: > > echo $LESS > echo $LESS_TERMCAP

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread Fernando C.V.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:23 AM, G David Modica wrote: > I believe it defaults to "less". Maybe you have some custom less settings? try this: echo $LESS echo $LESS_TERMCAP_mb - $LESS_TERMCAP_md - $LESS_TERMCAP_so - $LESS_TERMCAP_us echo $LESS_TERMCAP_me - $LESS_TERMCAP_se - $LESS_TE

Re: [dev] [st] problem reading man pages

2013-05-22 Thread G David Modica
On 11:47 Wed 22 May , Chris Down wrote: > You have misunderstood the question -- what is your $PAGER? gdm@gdmThink ~$ echo $PAGER gdm@gdmThink ~$ I believe it defaults to "less".