Re: [dev] [st] pasting to gvim sucks

2013-04-12 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:53:08 +0200 Alexander Sedov wrote: > > Maybe pasting to st should be fixed too, so when newlines are pasted, > > they are translated to ^M. But '\n' should be copied, otherwise pasting > > to graphical programs is broken. > That's how urxvt does it and this is

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Calvin Morrison
On Apr 12, 2013 5:07 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > can the moralfags please fuck off already? > Yes thank you. This was about a windows port of st. No I do not think YOU are going to enlighten us about this history of unix, the reaches of space or anything another windows bashing threa

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread KarlOskar Rikås
agree On Apr 12, 2013 11:07 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > can the moralfags please fuck off already? > >

Re: [dev] ii IPv6 support

2013-04-12 Thread Rob
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:32:43PM -0500, William Giokas wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 09:25:25AM +0800, Patrick Haller wrote: > > i mean in the ii repo -> http://git.suckless.org/ii > > I agree...I think they should be put into separate branches. It would > make rebasing to a newer version ridi

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Johnson
Well this whole thread is truly new and exciting. I'm glad to see how far it's come since the 800 billion other times I've read it. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Strake wrote: > On 12/04/2013, Max DeLiso wrote: > > I really only still run windows because I play > > some games which only ru

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Down
On 13 Apr 2013 05:07, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > can the moralfags please fuck off already? > "Moralfags"? What are you, twelve years old? Kindly go back to 4chan, it's where you belong with such lacking social skills.

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread hiro
can the moralfags please fuck off already?

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Strake
On 12/04/2013, Max DeLiso wrote: > I really only still run windows because I play > some games which only run on windows. Wine?

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Max DeLiso
What I can take away from the collective thoughts above is this: effort spent trying to make windows better is generally wasted, and contributes to the problem of the proliferation of shitty software. I agree with this. > As for "normal users" they need a good kick in a nuts to wake up and learn t

Re: [dev][libsl][PATCH] drw.c: Allocation success check, don't call die() on error

2013-04-12 Thread Lorenzo Cogotti
Il giorno Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:56:55 +0200 Lorenzo Cogotti ha scritto: > [...] eliminating redundant calls to free() [...] That is: "eliminating redundant checks before free() calls" -- Lorenzo Cogotti

Re: [dev] [st] [PATCH] Clearer cursor style, like xterm

2013-04-12 Thread Alexander Sedov
2013/4/12 Mark Hills : > I find when a window is un-focused that the cursor location looks too > much like display content. > > Please consider this patch, which mimics xterm behaviour by displaying > a hollow rectangle, and makes a saving of one colourmap entry :) st uses XRender throughout its so

[dev][libsl][PATCH] drw.c: Allocation success check, don't call die() on error

2013-04-12 Thread Lorenzo Cogotti
This commit modifies drw.c to avoid killing the application if an error occurs, the caller should be able to decide what to do on error situations, this hopefully improves code reusability on various projects. It also checks for calloc() to succeed before using the returned pointer, improving code

[dev] [st] [PATCH] Clearer cursor style, like xterm

2013-04-12 Thread Mark Hills
I find when a window is un-focused that the cursor location looks too much like display content. Please consider this patch, which mimics xterm behaviour by displaying a hollow rectangle, and makes a saving of one colourmap entry :) --- config.def.h | 4 +--- st.c | 18 --

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Martti Kühne
uh, I intended to say, they're "picky by the bit" there.

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alexander Sedov wrote: >> Oh and, how comes you're writing a terminal emulator with your views? >> Because writing stuff for geeks is easier? > Hey, I'm not writing terminal emulator. I'm submitting patches to st > and get shouted at by __20h__, and that's it. > Bu

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Alexander Sedov
> Oh and, how comes you're writing a terminal emulator with your views? > Because writing stuff for geeks is easier? Hey, I'm not writing terminal emulator. I'm submitting patches to st and get shouted at by __20h__, and that's it. But the answer is: because writing stuff for myself is usually wort

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Alexander Sedov wrote: > I'm not sure about needing more dotnet, but I'd like to point out that > most programmers write stuff for non-programmers nowadays. So, letting > non-savvy people do stuff is the new reality. Oh and, how comes you're writing a terminal em

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Alexander Sedov wrote: > From my point of view, dotnet is mediocre realization of great idea: > language interoperability by design and free JIT for everyone. The > problem is, learning C# cannot make one a good programmer, I've seen > many Javaists that have no fr

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Alexander Sedov
> This. Knowledge and money do not correlate where I come from - how > else can those biggest idiots be so successful in capitalism? > Money in more ancient times was about trust, and you pay him because > you trust him with your health. So the doctor has, in that sense, as > much responsibility fo

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Alexander Sedov wrote: > I see nothing wrong in providing technical support for money. (And > user-friendliness too). It's like taking advice from doctor: you pay > for visit, although it seems that he has not done much. You pay him > for the fact that he knows be

Re: [dev] [st] [PATCH] Switched a few things around to make pasting from/to GUI a bit better.

2013-04-12 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:28:43PM +0400, Alexander Sedov wrote: > Now, on selcopy, st generates traditional Unix newlines ('\n'), because > apparently that's what GUI applications are used to see. But some > terminal applications do not handle '\n' very well, so, when pasting to st, > line feeds a

Re: [dev] [st] pasting to gvim sucks

2013-04-12 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> Yeah, it makes sense for pasting from st to st. > But pasting from, for one, surf to st suffers from ^J instead of ^M > (mcabber, nano, who knows what else), and pasting to file and, as > topicstarter states, to gvim is pain, too. Yeah, the problem here is you will have problems in both cases, s

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Alexander Sedov
> Form your sentiment one gets impression that you think that situation is any > better with windows software, and if you tink like that thats not even funny. It's not better in average, yes. But dispersion is much greater. There are IE search bars and there are nice professional tools. And one usu

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-04-12 14:07, Sam Watkins wrote: > One of the main suckless devs Uriel did commit suicide not long ago. > Perhaps people here could refrain from saying "kill yourself", > out of respect to him. Or did he talk that way also? Until the time that the list regulars grow the social skills that

Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

2013-04-12 Thread Edgaras
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 03:08:12AM +0400, Alexander Sedov wrote: > Oh, look, how nice, religious wars at dev@suckless, and my favourite > "argument" about Windows being crappy operating system with absolutely > no justification. Religious people never justify their views, I guess. > About the "lock

[dev] [st] [PATCH] Switched a few things around to make pasting from/to GUI a bit better.

2013-04-12 Thread Alexander Sedov
Now, on selcopy, st generates traditional Unix newlines ('\n'), because apparently that's what GUI applications are used to see. But some terminal applications do not handle '\n' very well, so, when pasting to st, line feeds are replaced with carriage returns, codes that Return key generates. ---

Re: [dev] [st] pasting to gvim sucks

2013-04-12 Thread Alexander Sedov
> This is the reason why st is writing '\r', because is the code that is > generated when you press return. Yeah, it makes sense for pasting from st to st. But pasting from, for one, surf to st suffers from ^J instead of ^M (mcabber, nano, who knows what else), and pasting to file and, as topicstar