Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:52:16PM +0100, pancake wrote: > Do you know ssg? Its a perl script that converts a markdown file into a > postscript slides.. I already have typesetting software. ssg's existence doesn't make markdown more useful, it just makes it slightly less useful than troff. > T

[dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread trebol
Hi Christoph, In vi (nvi) I have some maps for mail (I'm using groff): "groff to plain utf8 and open as alternate %.ftext map =¡ :w^M:!groff -kstep -ms -Tutf8 -P -cobu % > %.fmt^M:e%.fmt^M "Change to alternate :e# map V :w^M:e#^M "spell Troff map =Ç :w^M:!hunspell -n -d en_US %^M:e!

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Luis Anaya
Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> writes: >> d. Text - Looking at man pages, it adds a lot of terminal commands, it >> would not look nice in email. > > Well, only needed is a subset to align text on a line, add some > lines, [chomp...] > much more than a simple hack would approach. All right,

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread pancake
Do you know ssg? Its a perl script that converts a markdown file into a postscript slides.. Theres also an awk markdown parser to html and make it work on ansi is just plain simple (or output troff) Markdown is human readable and easy to parse to generate various outputs, it just needs a tool

Re: [dev] [st] new features

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:13:57 +0100 Raphael Proust wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > > Hello. > > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:35:02 +0100 ilf wrote: > >> How about a new release? ("release often"..) > > How about rap music? ("release e

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:17:27PM -0400, Galos, David wrote: > It you really want to typeset your e-mails, why not use > markdown? > > * It is human readable, so no-one needs any fancy frontend > * You don't need any annoying multi-part nonsense > * After using things like werc, it should already

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Galos, David
It you really want to typeset your e-mails, why not use markdown? * It is human readable, so no-one needs any fancy frontend * You don't need any annoying multi-part nonsense * After using things like werc, it should already be second nature to many people. * Much non-markdown mail also happens

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:37:27 +0100 Luis Anaya wrote: > 1. This deserves some explanation: > > If you were going to translate Troff commands for email , would you > typeset these into... > > [...] > > d. Text - Looking at man pages, it adds a lot of terminal commands, it > would not l

Re: [dev] [st] new features

2012-10-28 Thread Raphael Proust
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > Hello. > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:35:02 +0100 ilf wrote: >> How about a new release? ("release often"..) How about rap music? ("release early, release often (and with rap music)" - FAT lab - http://www.gold.f.at/press

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread hiro
yes, I also use html for mails. This has been my mail formatter for years. But it sends plain text of course: https://mail.google.com/mail/h/

Re: [dev] [st] new features

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Hello. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:35:02 +0100 ilf wrote: > How about a new release? ("release often"..) That's a good idea. Not now, I'm patching surf at the moment. Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Strake
On 28/10/2012, Luis Anaya wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:21:40PM +0100, hiro wrote: >>> > typesetting? raw text can be typeset just fine with a keyboard. not >>> > sure what you're really up to. >>> > >>> >>> It is suckless answer to HTML email. >>> >> It might as well *be* HTML email. > >

Re: [dev] [st] new features

2012-10-28 Thread ilf
How about a new release? ("release often"..) On 10-28 13:40, Christoph Lohmann wrote: Some new features are in st tip: -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Descr

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Luis Anaya
Raphael Proust writes: >>> HTML is the most "logical" approach for formatting. >> >> What? > > Not sure. It actually looks like a troll whistle… I think it is a > troll whistle. No, it's not a troll whistle. I can get a troll bugle if I need to. 1. This deserves some explanation: If you were

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Raphael Proust
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:18:43AM -0400, Luis Anaya wrote: >> HTML is the most "logical" approach for formatting. > > What? Not sure. It actually looks like a troll whistle… I think it is a troll whistle. -- __ Raphaël Proust

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:18:43AM -0400, Luis Anaya wrote: > HTML is the most "logical" approach for formatting. What? > Kurt stated, how come you do not use HTML in itself? No, he didn't.

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Luis Anaya
Bjartur Thorlacius writes: > Christoph Lohmann wrote: >> as the subject says, I’m thinking of typesetting my e‐mail in troff. > I have never done that; I use plain UTF-8. But are you talking about > writing email in troff and converting it to HTML? Or what makes email > special, aside from t

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:48 +0100 Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > Christoph Lohmann wrote: > > as the subject says, I’m thinking of typesetting my e‐mail in troff. > I have never done that; I use plain UTF-8. But are you talking about > writing email in troff and converting it to HT

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
Christoph Lohmann wrote: as the subject says, I’m thinking of typesetting my e‐mail in troff. I have never done that; I use plain UTF-8. But are you talking about writing email in troff and converting it to HTML? Or what makes email special, aside from the convention to use plain text inste

Re: [dev] HTML5 screencasts

2012-10-28 Thread pancake
Pretty simple way to record a screencast. But i usually want to record them on xnest at 640x480. My dualscreen setup generates too big videos. Maybe you would like to modify this script to add Support to launch a xephyr/xnest and record there at a given resolution. Also streaming support (iceca

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread pancake
What about postscript mails? Or just... Markdown? Which kind of stuff do you need? Clickable links? Indentation? Comic sans? On Oct 28, 2012, at 15:06, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:52:46AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:52:46AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > It might as well *be* HTML email. > > I assume that the typesetting will be done on his end, instead of just > dumping verbose formatting into your terminal. I don't think that

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Andrew Hills
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > It might as well *be* HTML email. I assume that the typesetting will be done on his end, instead of just dumping verbose formatting into your terminal. I don't think that makes for a fair comparison. --Andrew Hills

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 05:03:06PM +0400, p37si...@lavabit.com wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:21:40PM +0100, hiro wrote: > > typesetting? raw text can be typeset just fine with a keyboard. not > > sure what you're really up to. > > > > It is suckless answer to HTML email. > It might as wel

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread p37sitdu
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 01:21:40PM +0100, hiro wrote: > typesetting? raw text can be typeset just fine with a keyboard. not > sure what you're really up to. > It is suckless answer to HTML email.

Re: [dev] [st] cjk input

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Hello. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:40:03 +0100 the little girl wrote: > hello mr. suckless! > > > this patch against tip should make st support cjk input when using > ibus/scim/uim/whatever through xim >

[dev] [st] new features

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings comrades. Some new features are in st tip: * A new font handling that allows dynamic font changes. * A hotkeys array in config.h for defining your own hotkeys. I kept to using Alt + Shift for the default modifiers. Please anyone tell me, if this overla

Re: [dev] [st] toggle font

2012-10-28 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:38:43 +0100 sta...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote: > Hi, > > This patch (against tip) introduces an array of font names in the config > instead FONT and allows to cycle through them with Ctrl-PgUp at runtime. > > I missed this feature a lot when light conditions and dist

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread hiro
typesetting? raw text can be typeset just fine with a keyboard. not sure what you're really up to.

Re: [dev] Troff for typsetting e-mails

2012-10-28 Thread markus schnalke
[2012-10-28 06:22] Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> > > as the subject says, I’m thinking of typesetting my e‐mail in troff. > Anyone here has done something similar? I have not done it before but as I like troff much I've thought about doing so. Eventually, I have decided against it because

Re: [dev] slock-1.1

2012-10-28 Thread Nick
Quoth Anselm R Garbe: > Next on todo will be dwm improvements -- I'm currently investigating > if a switch to cairo instead of Xft would be any good. I wouldn't know which was better, but good support for weird font stuff is a feature which would be nice. Just things like combining characters do