Re: [dev] [dwm] drop the bars (was: systray in upstream dwm?)

2012-04-05 Thread Martin Kopta
On 04/06/2012 07:41 AM, Jan Christoph Ebersbach wrote: Good Friday, Thank you Anselm for explaining the issue. From my point of view there is no other way of implementing a proper systray for dwm as long as it contains the bars and has no interface. Why don't we drop the bars and keybindings an

[dev] [dwm] drop the bars (was: systray in upstream dwm?)

2012-04-05 Thread Jan Christoph Ebersbach
Good Friday, Thank you Anselm for explaining the issue. From my point of view there is no other way of implementing a proper systray for dwm as long as it contains the bars and has no interface. Why don't we drop the bars and keybindings and let separate programs handle it. There are also other p

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread KIMURA Masaru
>> > not necessary and should not be added to mainline. >> if you don't mind my asking, explain why? > > For every task there are good tools which do not require a tray > (e.g. network manager: netcfg). > I use the xinitrc to display all system information I require. > > It is a little hard to argu

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Arian Kuschki
On 5 April 2012 20:42, Micheal Smith wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 08:40:55PM +0200, Arian Kuschki wrote: > > On 5 April 2012 19:18, Micheal Smith wrote: > > > > > Just updated the patch to apply cleanly with 6.0. Hope that helps. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Micheal > > > > > > > Thanks for th

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Micheal Smith
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 08:40:55PM +0200, Arian Kuschki wrote: > On 5 April 2012 19:18, Micheal Smith wrote: > > > Just updated the patch to apply cleanly with 6.0. Hope that helps. > > > > Thanks, > > Micheal > > > > Thanks for this, unfortunately it still does not apply for me. Actually I > t

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Arian Kuschki
On 5 April 2012 19:18, Micheal Smith wrote: > Just updated the patch to apply cleanly with 6.0. Hope that helps. > > Thanks, > Micheal > Thanks for this, unfortunately it still does not apply for me. Actually I think I lost interest in this patch already, it feels too complex. I don't want to m

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 5 April 2012 13:31, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 4 April 2012 22:29, Jan Christoph Ebersbach wrote: >> What needs to be done to get the systray patch upstream into dwm? Is there >> any chance of getting it upstream or is it a total no go? > > It is a total no go. It is even questionable that dwm

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 April 2012 22:29, Jan Christoph Ebersbach wrote: > What needs to be done to get the systray patch upstream into dwm? Is there > any chance of getting it upstream or is it a total no go? It is a total no go. It is even questionable that dwm contains a status text area. There are tools like dz

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Micheal Smith
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:29:27PM +0200, Arian Kuschki wrote: > On 4 April 2012 22:29, Jan Christoph Ebersbach wrote: > > > ** > > Hi, > > > > What needs to be done to get the systray patch upstream into dwm? Is there > > any chance of getting it upstream or is it a total no go? > > > > The patc

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:48:57AM -0400, Manolo Martínez wrote: > > (I don't use systrays, but still:) How so? If you have, say, six windows per > tag quick access might be useful. One can have a use policy that avoids this, > but such use policies are not enforced by a tiling interface. > If y

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Julio Missao
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:48:57 -0400, Manolo Martínez wrote: > On 04/05/12 at 10:44am, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 02:24:20AM -0600, Jeremy Jackins wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, KIMURA Masaru > > > wrote: > > > >> however in my opinion a system tray is > > > >>

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 04/05/12 at 10:44am, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 02:24:20AM -0600, Jeremy Jackins wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, KIMURA Masaru wrote: > > >> however in my opinion a system tray is > > >> not necessary and should not be added to mainline. > > > > > > if you don't mi

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 02:24:20AM -0600, Jeremy Jackins wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, KIMURA Masaru wrote: > >> however in my opinion a system tray is > >> not necessary and should not be added to mainline. > > > > if you don't mind my asking, explain why? > > just curious. > > > > Ne

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Jeremy Jackins
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, KIMURA Masaru wrote: >> however in my opinion a system tray is >> not necessary and should not be added to mainline. > > if you don't mind my asking, explain why? > just curious. > Necessity needs justification, not the other way around.

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Hannes Blut
On 04/05/12 at 05:12pm, KIMURA Masaru wrote: > > not necessary and should not be added to mainline. > if you don't mind my asking, explain why? For every task there are good tools which do not require a tray (e.g. network manager: netcfg). I use the xinitrc to display all system information I re

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread KIMURA Masaru
> however in my opinion a system tray is > not necessary and should not be added to mainline. if you don't mind my asking, explain why? just curious.

Re: [dev] [dwm] systray in upstream dwm?

2012-04-05 Thread Hannes Blut
On 04/04/12 at 10:29pm, Jan Christoph Ebersbach wrote: > What needs to be done to get the systray patch upstream into dwm? Is there > any chance of getting it upstream or is it a total no go? That is of course arg's decision, however in my opinion a system tray is not necessary and should not be