Re: [dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread lolilolicon
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: >> if the task is 'waste a bunch of screen real estate' then no, ranger >> is a far better choice >> > The current combination of a shell and a terminal emulator is > horrible. I've found myself doing stuff like: > > exec /dev/tty2 2>/dev/

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread hiro
I saw a beggar a few days ago and didn't give him any money - he reminded me of RMS.

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > I heard him ask recorders of a speech of his to license recordings > under a no-derivs-allowed CC license this summer (in Fjölbrautaskólinn > við Ármúla, Iceland). Here's an example of some film of his under cc-by-nd: http://whatisaclo

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
I heard him ask recorders of a speech of his to license recordings under a no-derivs-allowed CC license this summer (in Fjölbrautaskólinn við Ármúla, Iceland). These recordings tend to get lost and forgotten in cutting, encoding and uploading. I'll try to see if this one got online, and dig it up.

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread pancake
Use sloccount. It doesnt matters how do you indent with this tool.. Well, some syntaxes are not handled at all like if().. And if()\n.. But you get proper loccount On 23/10/2011, at 16:01, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > It's a detail, but shouldn't simple_interrupter.c be called > simple_interpreter.

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread pancake
Install a gcc targetting x86-64 and use -Wall that would be enought. Those bugs are quite obvious If i get some spare time i can look at the code, but actually im kinda out of time for everything :( On 23/10/2011, at 14:55, Xinhao Yuan wrote: > __sa is an old magic to specify the size of gc_h

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-23 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 10/23/11, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Actually this guy does not only list CLI tools, neither is everything > he has on there top-notch software. > Yes, it's faster to write your own tools rather than reading that > list, but ls /usr/local/bin is not anything I would want on any > main

Re: [dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
> if the task is 'waste a bunch of screen real estate' then no, ranger > is a far better choice > The current combination of a shell and a terminal emulator is horrible. I've found myself doing stuff like: exec /dev/tty2 2>/dev/tty1 #optionally stty -echo while read doclear $REPLY done

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-23 Thread hiro
Actually this guy does not only list CLI tools, neither is everything he has on there top-notch software. Yes, it's faster to write your own tools rather than reading that list, but ls /usr/local/bin is not anything I would want on any mainstream lunixes either.

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread Aleksey Zapparov
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > I second that. Richard Stallman's love for cc-by-nd is enough proof > that he is ready to err on the restricted side, instead of the free > one. Can you provide a proof link?

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 10/23/11, Kurt H Maier wrote: > that is a load of pretentious, presumptuous shit, "mrblog," and nobody > involved with the creation of the GPL is qualified to judge the needs > of "all users & devs, present and future." > I second that. Richard Stallman's love for cc-by-nd is enough proof that

Re: [dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Huh? The shell is not ideal for every task is it. if the task is 'waste a bunch of screen real estate' then no, ranger is a far better choice -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread hiro
fucking pussies around?

Re: [dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread hiro
> the shell isn't enough?  someone had  to port Finder to curses?  this > is ridiculous Huh? The shell is not ideal for every task is it.

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote: > I found this nice list of tools for the CLI: this appears to be a list of tools for *replicating a gui environment* mostly in curses. a real list of tools for the cli can be had by running the following command: ls /usr/bin/ &

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM, mikshaw wrote: > No. > > Claiming a person's freedoms are decided by their ability to obtain those > freedoms?  Very wrong.  Just as laws against slavery are there to balance the > freedoms of all, GPL is there to balance the freedoms of all users & devs, > pres

Re: [dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
the shell isn't enough? someone had to port Finder to curses? this is ridiculous -- # Kurt H Maier

[dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-23 Thread Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez
I found this nice list of tools for the CLI: http://www.jonaustin.org/tools.html -- Ricardo (http://r.untroubled.be/)

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Xinhao Yuan
Yeah, my poor English. There are always many stuffs in a language interpreter/compiler. The motivation of the project is to provide a minimal script environment inside other projects. On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > It's a detail, but shouldn't simple_interrupter.c be c

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Pierre Chapuis
It's a detail, but shouldn't simple_interrupter.c be called simple_interpreter.c instead? Otherwise, I haven't spent so much time looking at it but the code looks pretty readable. The number of LOCs is artificially high because of the C coding style, but the complexity is low.

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Xinhao Yuan
__sa is an old magic to specify the size of gc_header_s, I removed it in the recent commit. For newlisp, I noticed it before. I think one of the difference is that newlisp is trying to provide a completed I/O routines set, while SEE is not. SEE may be considered minimalistic :) And there is no x8

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread Andreas Krennmair
* mikshaw [2011-10-23 14:50]: Claiming a person's freedoms are decided by their ability to obtain those freedoms?  Very wrong.  Just as laws against slavery are there to balance the freedoms of all, GPL is there to balance the freedoms of all users & devs, present and future. Primarily, the

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-23 Thread mikshaw
- Original Message - From: Jakub Lach To: dev mail list Cc: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters Kurt H Maier : > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Stanley Lieber > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch > > wrote: > >>

Re: [dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 10/23/11 at 01:08pm, Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote: > I found this project in the Arch Linux forums: > > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93025 > > I bet someone is gonna start with Python is not suckless, anyway, I like > the concept of a filemanager with 3 columns. FWIW this is

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread pancake
More notes: - add a space between -o and the filename when linking. This is also breaking the build. - defining gcheader foo to 24 makes the build happen, but full of pointer/int warnings which i imagine this is just wrong pointer arithmetics that will result in segfaults. - im also seeing wro

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 01:37:23PM +0200, pancake wrote: > Notes: > - looks interesting > - mkdir target require to get make working > - does not compile in osx. ( __sa thingy) > - did you tried newlisp? Could be possible to emulate the same functionality of the __sa thingy with the preprocessor?:

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread pancake
Notes: - looks interesting - mkdir target require to get make working - does not compile in osx. ( __sa thingy) - did you tried newlisp? On 22/10/2011, at 15:47, "Xinhao.Yuan" wrote: > Hello all, I have subscribed this mail list for long time, but it is my first > post here. I would like to int

[dev] Ranger, a textbased filemanager

2011-10-23 Thread Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez
I found this project in the Arch Linux forums: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93025 I bet someone is gonna start with Python is not suckless, anyway, I like the concept of a filemanager with 3 columns. Regards -- Ricardo (http://r.untroubled.be/)

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Xinhao Yuan
Oh, this would be a issue on x86_64. I wrote it on my x86 DEBIAN. fixing. On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > On 23.10.2011 12:20, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > >> Precision: breaks *on a 64 bits machine* (gc_header_t is a pointer >> so gc_header_s is 8 bytes larger than GC_HEADER

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On 23.10.2011 12:20, Pierre Chapuis wrote: Precision: breaks *on a 64 bits machine* (gc_header_t is a pointer so gc_header_s is 8 bytes larger than GC_HEADER_SPACE). OK, apparently just setting GC_HEADER_SPACE to 24 makes it build and run simple tests. Sorry for the noise.

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On 23.10.2011 12:08, Pierre Chapuis wrote: On 22.10.2011 20:54, Rob wrote: It's a similar compile time check similar to what dwm uses, in this case, it checks if gc_header_s is the same size as GC_HEADER_SPACE. OK, makes sense. But the build breaks because of this, which is understandable si

Re: [dev] Introducing SEE, the Simple Executing Engine

2011-10-23 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On 22.10.2011 20:54, Rob wrote: It's a similar compile time check similar to what dwm uses, in this case, it checks if gc_header_s is the same size as GC_HEADER_SPACE. OK, makes sense. But the build breaks because of this, which is understandable since gc_header_s is defined like this: str