Re: [dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)

2011-10-21 Thread Patrick Haller
On 2011-10-22 00:08, Connor Lane Smith wrote: On 21/10/2011, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > > http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy > Thanks, I enjoyed watching this. "Let's all write parsers." Hickey kicks unix because although pipes = composability, output and input = free-form text. We

Re: [dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)

2011-10-21 Thread bch
> Hey, > > On 21/10/2011, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > > http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy > > > > Excellent talk with a good take at the difficult problem of > > trying to define simplicity (in software). > > Thanks, I enjoyed watching this. Is there a downloadable version of thi

Re: [dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)

2011-10-21 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 21/10/2011, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy > > Excellent talk with a good take at the difficult problem of > trying to define simplicity (in software). Thanks, I enjoyed watching this. cls

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Catalin David
Awesome! Will try it soon and let you know about the results. Catalin 2011/10/21 Michał Siejak : > Lots of nice and simple solutions here. I, by no means, claim > xlsh/xlshd is the best way to ditch popular *DMs but well I had a lot > of fun coding it and it works for me. :) > > Back to the topic

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-21 Thread Invalid Argument
I need a +1 button on Stanley's reply... :P Excerpts from Stanley Lieber's message of 2011-10-20 20:32:46 -0400: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch > wrote: > > Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves? > > because you don't have the strength to take them. > > -sl

Re: [dev] [dev xlsh]: fix Makefile

2011-10-21 Thread Michał Siejak
> With this patch, your Makefile works with my make (GNU Make 3.81) Thanks for your patch. I modyfied Makefile accordingly and pushed it to github. -- Michał Siejak

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Michał Siejak
Lots of nice and simple solutions here. I, by no means, claim xlsh/xlshd is the best way to ditch popular *DMs but well I had a lot of fun coding it and it works for me. :) Back to the topic: xlsh github page now has proper wiki with HOWTOs on compiling and installing it on Arch and Ubuntu Linux a

Re: [dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)

2011-10-21 Thread ilf
On 10-21 11:11, Pierre Chapuis wrote: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy Wow, 2789 LOC in the 100K HTML! -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc De

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Andrew Hills wrote: > Do you use all (six?) of your ttys? No, I usually run bash on two to four ttys, and Xorg on one.

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Andrew Hills
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > It's far from terrible, but passing the filename of a short script to > a minimalistic statically compiled shell from init seams cleaner. But > your way doesn't pose any problems if you don't ever use bash on tty1. > I do so on daily bas

Re: [dev] Re: [st] Drawing optimizations

2011-10-21 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > Perhaps its faster to draw onto an image and then display that?  (urxvt > also does the optimization of only updating the window at screen > frequency or something, so it doesn't render all lines of text flushing > by.) > Judging from

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread hiro
> It's not like I can remove bash if I stop using it for this... Why?

[dev] Re: [st] Drawing optimizations

2011-10-21 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Aurélien Aptel writes: > Hi, > > I know st rendering is slow. I'm currently trying out different > solutions but I can tell you profiling X calls is no fun. > > tip now uses a simple dirty flag per line algorithm. > Each modified line has the flag set to 1. Only dirty lines are drawn > and once i

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 10/21/11, Anders Andersson wrote: > It's not like I can remove bash if I stop using it for this, and the > extra milliseconds while starting X doesn't bother me much compared to > having a completely new program that replace those lines. > It's far from terrible, but passing the filename of a s

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Christophe-Marie Duquesne
> # auto startx if logging in at VC/1 > if [[ -z "$DISPLAY" ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then >   startx >& ~/.myXLog >   logout > fi I do the same. Fastest login manager I know. If you have anything faster to suggest, I'll take it.

Re: [dev] Introducing XLSH

2011-10-21 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:00:48 -, Anders Andersson > wrote: >> >> My .bash_profile looks like this: >> >> # auto startx if logging in at VC/1 >> if [[ -z "$DISPLAY" ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then >>   startx >& ~/.myXLog >>   lo

[dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)

2011-10-21 Thread Pierre Chapuis
http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy Excellent talk with a good take at the difficult problem of trying to define simplicity (in software).

Re: [dev] Anti-GPL hipsters

2011-10-21 Thread Jakub Lach
Kurt H Maier : > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Stanley Lieber > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Claude Lelouch > > wrote: > >> Why don't I have the freedom to own slaves? > > > > because you don't have the strength to take them. > > > > -sl > > > this is the greatest email eve