Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 06:13:21PM +0100, pancake wrote: > It is possible.. But i do t think it takes much sense. Mach/darwin is just > slow and bloat architecture. I would jst prefer netbsd or openbsd.. Or > archlinux. Well if you need OS X-like support without the crap that is aqua then there

Re: [dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:11 PM, pancake wrote: > - power management not as good as in osx this can be tweaked, and osx has an extremely naive time-remaining alogrithm. it frequently reported seven hours of life and then crapped its pants after four. I got nearly an hour more out of the battery

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 18 March 2011 18:13, pancake wrote: > It is possible.. But i do t think it takes much sense. Mach/darwin is just > slow and bloat architecture. I would jst prefer netbsd or openbsd.. Or > archlinux. > > > Btw. I think tht nexy port of dwm must be wayland. Somebody did any test with > it? I'

Re: [dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread pancake
A friend of me managed to install ubuntu plus some hacks to make it work. The issues were: - power management not as good as in osx - screen is not normal rgb setup (you have to add a specifix color scheme for X11) - wireless driver ( broadcom) is pure shit. It mostly works, but in powersave mo

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread pancake
It is possible.. But i do t think it takes much sense. Mach/darwin is just slow and bloat architecture. I would jst prefer netbsd or openbsd.. Or archlinux. Btw. I think tht nexy port of dwm must be wayland. Somebody did any test with it? On 18/03/2011, at 17:51, Josh Rickmar wrote: > On Fri

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:23:24AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Hi there, > > at work I have to use OSX (on a MacBook Pro 13") for various reasons > and wonder if anyone is using dwm in conjunction with OSX? > I tried different approaches so far, but all are really PITA. > The only approach I ca

Re: [dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Isaac Raway
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, pancake wrote: At the beggining I was using dwm+xterm on XQuartz, but it was pretty inneficient and anoying. I have not found any decent tiling (or even non-tiling) window manager for OSX. So I stay in a fullscreen shell and ssh to the linux vm. dwm works very, very wel

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jakub Lach wrote: > I thought that access to POSIX terminal would suffice > as UI? > > No, seriously. They even manage to screw that up. The terminal application that ships with OS X is completely worthless. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread pancake
At the beggining I was using dwm+xterm on XQuartz, but it was pretty inneficient and anoying. then I switched to virtualbox+linux in fullscreen and now im using iTerm2 which have support for splits and tabs and keybindings can be configured in a similar way to dwm and fullscreensupport. So .

[dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Isaac Raway
So, I had to join this list because someone sent me this thread this morning. Just so happens I have been doing exactly this... From: Anselm R Garbe Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:23:24 +0100 at work I have to use OSX (on a MacBook Pro 13") for various reasons and wonder if anyone is using dwm i

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Jacob Todd
Some people want to Get Stuff Done, and access to a typewriter isn't going to cut it then. On Mar 18, 2011 11:46 AM, "Jakub Lach" wrote: > Kurt H Maier : > >> I tried for months on a macnook pro 5,5 at work. I wound up putting >> Slackware on the damn thing, which mostly meant hacking up video an

Re: [dev] [wmii] Chromium always starts as a floating window

2011-03-18 Thread Le Tian
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Dahms wrote: > Moreover, if you >> open up such an application via MOD4+p and then try to open a terminal(for >> ex.) in the same workspace that floating application is, terminal will >> load >> in a floating mode too, >> > > You can switch between the floa

Re: [dev] [wmii] Chromium always starts as a floating window

2011-03-18 Thread Thomas Dahms
Moreover, if you open up such an application via MOD4+p and then try to open a terminal(for ex.) in the same workspace that floating application is, terminal will load in a floating mode too, You can switch between the floating and the managed layer with Mod-Space. When you opened a float

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Jakub Lach
Kurt H Maier : > I tried for months on a macnook pro 5,5 at work. I wound up putting > Slackware on the damn thing, which mostly meant hacking up video and > wifi drivers. In my opinion OS X is amazing in that they managed to > screw up every single UI element in fresh and new ways. It really

Re: [dev] [wmii] Chromium always starts as a floating window

2011-03-18 Thread Le Tian
I feel like I should add. This is not a Chrome only issue, any app that has its own theming, loads up in "floating" mode, (ex: qmmp) Moreover, if you open up such an application via MOD4+p and then try to open a terminal(for ex.) in the same workspace that floating application is, terminal will loa

Re: [dev] [wmii] Chromium always starts as a floating window

2011-03-18 Thread Claudiu Bucur
i had the same problem and it had to do with the chromium theme. i disabled theme syncing and the problem went away. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Aaron Lindsay wrote: > Thanks! That works like a charm - it's always the simple things... > > Out of curiosity, what is it about that setting

[dev] [dvtm] Configurable, dynamic, terminal colors in dvtm

2011-03-18 Thread Ross Mohn
Hi, I've implemented configurable, dynamic, terminal colors in dvtm using string matching rules similar to dwm's rules for determining tag, float, and monitor settings for a window. It's common practice to use background colors to visually keeping track of what server you're logged in to, or for w

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
I tried for months on a macnook pro 5,5 at work. I wound up putting Slackware on the damn thing, which mostly meant hacking up video and wifi drivers. In my opinion OS X is amazing in that they managed to screw up every single UI element in fresh and new ways. It really is the worst interface I

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Rob
On 18 March 2011 12:07, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 18 March 2011 13:02, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: >> I'm using MacPorts and XQuartz to run dwm on my air. It works ok, but >> in the longterm I want to replace macos by linux. > > In my impression running Linux natively on Mac hardware sucks -- tr

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Steven Blatchford
On 13:07 Fri 18 Mar, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >On 18 March 2011 13:02, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: >> I'm using MacPorts and XQuartz to run dwm on my air. It works ok, but >> in the longterm I want to replace macos by linux. > >In my impression running Linux natively on Mac hardware sucks -- tried >i

Re: [dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread hiro
I've been wondering why nobody has said it yet:, so... Why don't you quit your job?

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Daniel Bainton
On 18 March 2011 14:07, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 18 March 2011 13:02, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: >> I'm using MacPorts and XQuartz to run dwm on my air. It works ok, but >> in the longterm I want to replace macos by linux. > > In my impression running Linux natively on Mac hardware sucks -- tr

[dev] Re: How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread David Engster
Anselm R. Garbe writes: > at work I have to use OSX (on a MacBook Pro 13") for various reasons > and wonder if anyone is using dwm in conjunction with OSX? Not dwm, but wmii under XQuartz. You can run XQuartz in fullscreen, but I ran into several problems and now I usually let it run in a separate

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Thomas Dahms
The only approach I can envision is running arch in VirtualBox and having a saner Linux environment to work with. But I have no idea what performance penalty that will be in regular use. I use Arch Linux in a Virtualbox on my Windows laptop and there is no noticeable performance penalty, only in

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 18 March 2011 13:02, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: > I'm using MacPorts and XQuartz to run dwm on my air. It works ok, but > in the longterm I want to replace macos by linux. In my impression running Linux natively on Mac hardware sucks -- tried it on the MacBook Pro, but seems that Linux freeze

Re: [dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Enno Boland (Gottox)
I'm using MacPorts and XQuartz to run dwm on my air. It works ok, but in the longterm I want to replace macos by linux. 2011/3/18 Anselm R Garbe : > Hi there, > > at work I have to use OSX (on a MacBook Pro 13") for various reasons > and wonder if anyone is using dwm in conjunction with OSX? > I t

[dev] How do you cope with OSX? (if at all)

2011-03-18 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi there, at work I have to use OSX (on a MacBook Pro 13") for various reasons and wonder if anyone is using dwm in conjunction with OSX? I tried different approaches so far, but all are really PITA. The only approach I can envision is running arch in VirtualBox and having a saner Linux environmen