Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Emmanuel Benisty
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote: > What would you choose for a really minimal OS? Just to answer OP's question, CRUX is what you want. Minimalism at its best, easy packaging, clean and elegant design, simple and powerful. Don't believe others, I'm right.

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Ammar James
Kurt is the new Uriel. I, for one, welcome our new resident troll.

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Michael Farnbach wrote: > Except in this thread, because, well, the original post was inviting a > distro war, wasn't it? It wasn't. Asking for feedback isn't asking for a troll. Some may forgot that. - benoît.

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Justin Pogue
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Michael Farnbach > wrote: >> One of the first things I learned many years ago watching the flame wars >> on Slashdot is that there are two types of people...(roughly) > > 1) Those who don't invalidate other p

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Michael Farnbach wrote: > One of the first things I learned many years ago watching the flame wars > on Slashdot is that there are two types of people...(roughly) 1) Those who don't invalidate other people's opinons based on presentation 2) You. -- # Kurt H Mai

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Farnbach
One of the first things I learned many years ago watching the flame wars on Slashdot is that there are two types of people...(roughly) 1) People who learn to love things for what they can do, and appreciate them for what they are. These people tend to write nice things, that help do what they alre

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote: > That's highly possible – I have limited lifetime though and having a > comfortable work environment as I do now, I will probably never have > the incentive to devote a substantial number of hours checking whether > the hardware and the soft

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Kurt H Maier dixit (2011-02-16, 19:48): > >Also, suggesting that people run *bsd on some modern commodity > >hardware (especially laptops) is totally unrealistic. > > That just tells me you have no experience or understanding regarding > the matter. I run linux on my laptop... but mostly because

Re: [dev] [surf] Check SSL certificates

2011-02-16 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
Hi, Using an authorized_keys file similiar to ssh would be interesting as well. A friend of mine pointed that out, and I don't really like the centralised nature of CAs. Best, Moritz

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote: > Why would I want to? I don't like Python. Still, by comparison to > dpkg-reconfigure it's pretty sane. And it works. "It's better than debian" is a weak endorsement > Since it's a source-based distro obviously I'm calling packages > somet

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Robert Ransom
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:28:15 -0500 Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote: > > Gentoo has a good balance in not being overengineered like Debian > > (dpkg-reconfigure and all that hell) > > bullshit, just look at emerge > > look at it No, emerge is under-

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Antoni Grzymala dixit (2011-02-17, 01:40): > > if you want to see how this can be done correctly, look at freebsd > > or openbsd, where software can be built -or- installed from > > packages. > > I did look and I found an obscure mess of working or non-working > makefiles. Somewhat akin to arch's

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Kurt H Maier dixit (2011-02-16, 19:28): > > Gentoo has a good balance in not being overengineered like Debian > > (dpkg-reconfigure and all that hell) > > bullshit, just look at emerge > > look at it Why would I want to? I don't like Python. Still, by comparison to dpkg-reconfigure it's pretty

Re: [dev] [surf] Check SSL certificates

2011-02-16 Thread Nick
Attached is a very slightly updated version of the patch, which is functionally the same, but neater. diff -r 7a931a352cf9 config.def.h --- a/config.def.h Thu Sep 09 11:15:02 2010 +0200 +++ b/config.def.h Thu Feb 17 00:46:22 2011 + @@ -1,11 +1,14 @@ /* modifier 0 means no modifier */

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote: > Gentoo has a good balance in not being overengineered like Debian > (dpkg-reconfigure and all that hell) bullshit, just look at emerge look at it > and having a decent quality > package tree (unlike arch). what package tree? where do

[dev] [surf] Check SSL certificates

2011-02-16 Thread Nick
Hi folks, The lack of any certificate checking in surf has been getting to me for some time, and I finally got around to fixing it. The attached patch checks the certificates against a ca file (specified in config.h). If there's a failure, the progress bar goes red (I changed the default http pro

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Antoni Grzymala
c...@wzff.de dixit (2011-02-17, 00:33): > Excerpts from Claudiu Bucur's message of Fri Feb 11 22:35:31 +0100 2011: > > gentoo is as minimal as you can get or as complex as you want. you compile > > everything locally, with the help of the portage repository (even the > > kernel). it has been my cl

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Anders Andersson
>> gentoo is as minimal as you can get or as complex as you want. you compile >> everything locally, with the help of the portage repository (even the >> kernel). it has been my closest experience to what i imagine "linux from >> scratch" would be like. >> >> also, the gentoo boards are the most ac

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread crap
Excerpts from Claudiu Bucur's message of Fri Feb 11 22:35:31 +0100 2011: > gentoo is as minimal as you can get or as complex as you want. you compile > everything locally, with the help of the portage repository (even the > kernel). it has been my closest experience to what i imagine "linux from >

Re: [dev] which minimal os

2011-02-16 Thread Justin Pogue
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Michael Farnbach wrote: > As with most answers, this one depends on a few things... > > Do you want it tiny for an alternative arch, like ARM? > Do you want it tiny and fast, because it is running on something really old? > Do you want it tiny and fast because you

Re: [dev] Re: musl libc

2011-02-16 Thread pancake
I have packaged musl in slpm* and it xompiles pretty nicely. The code os clean and short and a static hello world takes 2.5KB. Which is great. I have been statically linking other programs with slpm and musl and i got some headaches like missing definitions in some include files an so on. But i

[dev] Re: musl libc

2011-02-16 Thread finkler
On 02/12/11 19:48, pmarin wrote: > Have anyone tried it? > http://www.etalabs.net/musl/ > > Looks promising!