Good Morning!
surf 0.4 is released.
Changes in a nutshell
- xproperties changed to reduce code complexity
- user agent string is rfc compliant
- removed user defined context menu
- downloading is done by xterm+wget instead of surf itself
- various small bug fixes and improvements.
There are still
[Disclaimer: I love OpenBSD]
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:26:03PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> Why is there software being developed for any BSD either? I have a
> FreeBSD box, I wonder what the commands are.
>
> Grep is... Gnu grep! Gnu grep is an abomination! I used it on a big
> file last
Kurt H Maier dixit (2010-05-30, 19:38):
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Ok, may I suggest we all go to bed now? And don't forget to charge
> > your wireless devices...
>
> I refuse to read this message until you assure me it's utf-8 compliant
It was, do
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Ok, may I suggest we all go to bed now? And don't forget to charge
> your wireless devices...
I refuse to read this message until you assure me it's utf-8 compliant
--
# Kurt H Maier
On 30 May 2010, at 23:45, hiro wrote:
Ok, may I suggest we all go to bed now? And don't forget to charge
your wireless devices...
Aye, aye, I'm on my way there, lol. No wireless here, either. >_>
--
Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Alan Perlis
rc-httpd: http://eeke
Ok, may I suggest we all go to bed now? And don't forget to charge
your wireless devices...
On 30 May 2010, at 23:24, Marvin Vek wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:26:03PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
Thanks Kris. I was giving myself time to settle down before replying
to Marvin, but it's not happening.
Oh well, there was a big misunderstanding as i was on a rant not
beeing
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:26:03PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> Thanks Kris. I was giving myself time to settle down before replying
> to Marvin, but it's not happening.
Oh well, there was a big misunderstanding as i was on a rant not beeing
able to make clear what the hell i did mean. I
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:20:27PM +, hiro wrote:
> And your biggest reason of using that linux term is ncurses support, right?
>
> Oh, I love people most when they talk about ignorance.
>
> The idea of plan 9 is, that it's not possible to implement the
> underlying ideas cleanly on older sys
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:26:03PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
what about the kernels? NetBSD - XML parser in the kernel! At least the
Linux kernel maintainers keep some of the crap out. FreeBSD... not
really heard much positive about it, and Stealth used to say it was just
"trying to be
On 30 May 2010, at 18:32, Marvin Vek wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 01:22:01PM -0400, Kris Maglione wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 07:01:11PM +0200, Marvin Vek wrote:
Iirc: you're not using that ugly, bloated, badly implemented Linux
or
BSD then, right? Cause that would be weird!
Loving go
And your biggest reason of using that linux term is ncurses support, right?
Oh, I love people most when they talk about ignorance.
The idea of plan 9 is, that it's not possible to implement the
underlying ideas cleanly on older systems.
On 5/30/10, Marvin Vek wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 0
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:01:50PM +0200, pascal wrote:
Le Sun, 30 May 2010 16:12:08 -0400
Kris Maglione a écrit:
Why would you want any kind of locale-specific time? Here's what
I do:
@defmonitor(colors=wmii['focuscolors'], name='time')
def s9time(self):
return time.strftime('%H:%M:%S %
Le Sun, 30 May 2010 16:12:08 -0400
Kris Maglione a écrit:
> I'm getting confused trying to read the above, so I'll just
> explain from the begining.
Yes, I was confused myself, hehe.
> You don't want to copy wmiirc.py to wmiirc_local.py. The whole
> point of wmiirc_local.py is that it gets cal
On 30 May 2010 20:01, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> Anselm R Garbe dixit (2010-05-30, 19:29):
>
>> On 30 May 2010 00:58, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
>> >> well I'm on openbsd. ifconfig is used for everything.
>> >
>> > Well, that changes pretty much everything. OpenBSD's ifconfig is probably
>> > a unique
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:59:02PM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> May I suggest, that it would much simpler for the world to actually fix
> a few libs in a few conservative OS'es?
>
> There's nothing that makes the notion of one-byte-per-character somewhat
> universal. Just an arbitrary desision
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:52:35PM +0200, pascal wrote:
Hi again
I'm using the python script and I wonder if I do it correctly. I copied the
content of /etc/wmii-hg/python into ~/.wmii-hg and moved wmiirc.py to
wmiirc_local.py. The thing is it seems the script in /etc/wmii-hg is read first
becau
Dmitry Maluka dixit (2010-05-30, 22:30):
> That's gone. We (IT people) surrendered the initiative to the world
> around, though we could push that technical limitation through to force
> the world to switch to a simple small unified alphabet.
May I suggest, that it would much simpler for the worl
Hi again
I'm using the python script and I wonder if I do it correctly. I copied the
content of /etc/wmii-hg/python into ~/.wmii-hg and moved wmiirc.py to
wmiirc_local.py. The thing is it seems the script in /etc/wmii-hg is read first
because wmii is starting with the default appearance (for less
Kurt H Maier dixit (2010-05-30, 15:27):
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> > And, скажы меня, what if I need to mix cyryllic, some unusual character
> > or two like »λ«,
>
> you never "need" to do this
>
> > call upon Janáček's surname, mention a band called
> > Sigur R
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:05:13PM +0200, ilf wrote:
> On 05-30 11:12, David DEMELIER wrote:
> >>Please test hg tip and let me know any issues.
> >Do you remember the mplayer scaling issue that we talked about on
> >IRC? The issue is still here even in hg tip.
>
> I don't know which issue you were
Hi...
my mplayer (SVN-r31147-4.5.0) works fine and so does flash in fullscreen
mode.
cengiz
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:05 PM, ilf wrote:
> On 05-30 11:12, David DEMELIER wrote:
>
>> Please test hg tip and let me know any issues.
>>>
>> Do you remember the mplayer scaling issue that we talked ab
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 07:29:34PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> For my German conversations I'm in favor to rewrite German umlauts
> like so: ae/Ae oe/Oe ue/Ue and sz and be still UTF8 compliant,
> regardless the platform in use.
>
> I understand that for cyrillic this would be a problem though.
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> And, скажы меня, what if I need to mix cyryllic, some unusual character
> or two like »λ«,
you never "need" to do this
> call upon Janáček's surname, mention a band called
> Sigur Rós, their track „Suð Í Eyrum” and such?
Everyone will kn
* pancake [2010-05-30 19:00]:
> It's great for reading text without getting affected by zoom. the
> lines get wrapped.
>
> textarea,body,td,tr,p,select,option,font,pre {
> width:99% !important;
> }
>
With the latter, don't you run into more problems (e.g. neighbouring TDs of
size 99% sou
* Anselm R Garbe [2010-05-30 20:29]:
> For my German conversations I'm in favor to rewrite German umlauts
> like so: ae/Ae oe/Oe ue/Ue and sz and be still UTF8 compliant,
> regardless the platform in use.
I understand if someone hates me for burning their eyes with that, but I
must admit I switch
On 05-30 11:12, David DEMELIER wrote:
Please test hg tip and let me know any issues.
Do you remember the mplayer scaling issue that we talked about on IRC?
The issue is still here even in hg tip.
I don't know which issue you were talking about, but for me mplayer now
*always* is fulscreen. I
Anselm R Garbe dixit (2010-05-30, 19:29):
> On 30 May 2010 00:58, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
> >> well I'm on openbsd. ifconfig is used for everything.
> >
> > Well, that changes pretty much everything. OpenBSD's ifconfig is probably a
> > unique thing among other BSDs (AFAIK) and is nothing like Lin
[2010-05-30 19:29] Anselm R Garbe
> On 30 May 2010 00:58, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
> >
> > Honestly, because of things like that I would gladly switch to
> > OpenBSD (since it supports all of my laptop's hardware and has all
> > the software I need). But the fact that currently it doesn't have
> > U
On 30 May 2010 00:58, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
>> well I'm on openbsd. ifconfig is used for everything.
>
> Well, that changes pretty much everything. OpenBSD's ifconfig is probably a
> unique thing among other BSDs (AFAIK) and is nothing like Linux's ifconfig.
> And it's much simpler to use than i
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 07:37:47PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
> Your blatant ignorance is getting a bi ton my nerves. Do you even know
> what Plan 9 from User Space is and for what systems it is available?
Which is one of the things i'm talking about, how's that ignorance.
--
Marvin Vek
-
if (user_spec
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Marvin Vek wrote:
> Not afaik. Why is there software beeing developed for Linux? Why aren't
> we all on Plan9 and forget about that hideous OS? Again, if i understand
> it correctly, the idea is to learn from Plan9, implement it's idea's
> cause they're good, and d
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 01:22:01PM -0400, Kris Maglione wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 07:01:11PM +0200, Marvin Vek wrote:
> >Iirc: you're not using that ugly, bloated, badly implemented Linux or
> >BSD then, right? Cause that would be weird!
> >
> >Loving good tools and implementations is one th
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 07:01:11PM +0200, Marvin Vek wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 05:47:45PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
Granted, none of that's any help when you just want the tools you're
familiar with, but I've got to the stage where I'll throw away any
software that gets in my way
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 05:47:45PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> Granted, none of that's any help when you just want the tools you're
> familiar with, but I've got to the stage where I'll throw away any
> software that gets in my way, no matter how 'standard' it is.
Iirc: you're not usin
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 05:47:45PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
On 30 May 2010, at 17:16, Kris Maglione wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 06:09:02PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Kris Maglione
wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
Fre
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 06:34:45PM +0200, Marvin Vek wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:19:09AM -0600, anthony wrote:
Setting "XTerm*locale: utf8" has worked well enough for me, though it's no
help for console support. I find that OpenBSD has adequate (though imperfect)
Unicode support; the major
On 30 May 2010, at 17:16, Kris Maglione wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 06:09:02PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Kris Maglione
wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
FreeBSD doesn't support UTF-8 in the console. It only does UTF-8
in X1
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 06:19:50PM +0200, pascal wrote:
Le Sun, 30 May 2010 11:25:28 -0400
Kris Maglione a écrit:
Do a full sysupgrade and a clean build and the wmii abort issue
will go away. As for wmiir, you'll have to build with 'STATIC='
because glibc seems to have broken nss for staticall
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:19:09AM -0600, anthony wrote:
> Setting "XTerm*locale: utf8" has worked well enough for me, though it's no
> help for console support. I find that OpenBSD has adequate (though imperfect)
> Unicode support; the major problem I have with it is that the compose key
> only su
> > You can use Plan 9 from User Space in OpenBSD which provides probably
> > the best UTF-8 support of any tool set.
> > uriel
>
>
> Whoa. That kinda blew my mind away for a while. But then again, it's not gonn
> a help me get UTF-8 in console, ncurses apps and xterm (I had UTF-8 issues in
> Xt
Le Sun, 30 May 2010 11:25:28 -0400
Kris Maglione a écrit:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:32:02PM +0200, pascal wrote:
> >glibc has been updated to 2.12 in archlinux and now wmii (both
> >release and -hg) despite building without errors will abort at
> >the beginning of the process. On the tty it
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 06:09:02PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Kris Maglione wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
FreeBSD doesn't support UTF-8 in the console. It only does UTF-8 in X11.
Well, the point is that it does UTF-8 in libc,
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Kris Maglione wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Kris Maglione
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You could always try FreeBSD. They've had UTF-8 support since version 5.
>>> The
>>> ifconfig isn't quite a
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Kris Maglione wrote:
You could always try FreeBSD. They've had UTF-8 support since version 5. The
ifconfig isn't quite as good as OpenBSD's, though. It doesn't handle WPA
internally (but, then, given
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Kris Maglione wrote:
> You could always try FreeBSD. They've had UTF-8 support since version 5. The
> ifconfig isn't quite as good as OpenBSD's, though. It doesn't handle WPA
> internally (but, then, given OpenBSD's focus on crypto, it's not surprising
> that its
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:32:02PM +0200, pascal wrote:
glibc has been updated to 2.12 in archlinux and now wmii (both
release and -hg) despite building without errors will abort at
the beginning of the process. On the tty it simply states
"aborted" , and on the DISPLAY the screen is black and
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:09:01PM +0400, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
You can use Plan 9 from User Space in OpenBSD which provides probably
the best UTF-8 support of any tool set.
uriel
Whoa. That kinda blew my mind away for a while. But then again,
it's not gonna help me get UTF-8 in console, ncurs
Works fine but an option to disable automatic resize while handling
EWMH would allow to do things like this => http://imgur.com/LGNIx.png
and would permit to play with floating/monocle/tiles mode.
Regards,
--
Sylvain `Magicking` Laurent
sylvain.laur...@epita.fr
Hi
glibc has been updated to 2.12 in archlinux and now wmii (both release and -hg)
despite building without errors will abort at the beginning of the process. On
the tty it simply states "aborted" , and on the DISPLAY the screen is black and
the bar empty, in a frozen state. Reverting to glibc-2.1
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
> Whoa. That kinda blew my mind away for a while. But then again, it's not
> gonna help me get UTF-8 in console, ncurses apps and xterm (I had UTF-8
> issues in Xterm the last time I tried OpenBSD), is it?
No.
But you're not supposed to use
No issues here; it works perfectly. Thanks!
Regards,
Claudio M. Alessi
--
JID: smoppy AT gmail.com
WWW: http://clamiax.selfip.org
> You can use Plan 9 from User Space in OpenBSD which provides probably
> the best UTF-8 support of any tool set.
> uriel
Whoa. That kinda blew my mind away for a while. But then again, it's not gonna
help me get UTF-8 in console, ncurses apps and xterm (I had UTF-8 issues in
Xterm the last tim
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
> Honestly, because of things like that I would gladly switch to OpenBSD (since
> it supports all of my laptop's hardware and has all the software I need). But
> the fact that currently it doesn't have UTF-8 is really stopping me from
> doi
In Linux I use two scripts. I store the passwords in two plain files:
wep:
#! /bin/sh
key="`grep $1 /home/pmarin/wep | cut -d' ' -f2`"
sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid $1
sudo iwconfig wlan0 key $key
sudo dhclient wlan0
wpa:
#! /bin/sh
sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
sudo iwconfig wlan0 es
On Sun, 30 May 2010 04:57:42 +
bjartur wrote:
> iw has a scan subcommand
> which lists the type of encryption as well as the SSID and connection
> strength but it's quite verbose (by default at least). This isn't
> perfect so I'm open to suggestions as well.
I use a little perl script (20 LO
On 30 May 2010, at 10:49, markus schnalke wrote:
[2010-05-29 23:37] Ethan Grammatikidis
This didn't seem to reach the list the first time, resending to check
if it's a glitch.
The mail already reached the list the first time. See:
http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1005/4394.html
Strange. Sorr
[2010-05-29 23:37] Ethan Grammatikidis
> This didn't seem to reach the list the first time, resending to check
> if it's a glitch.
The mail already reached the list the first time. See:
http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1005/4394.html
meillo
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:07:00AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
On 29 May 2010 22:18, Sylvain Laurent wrote:
Yes, that's what I was thinking about EWMH, there is already monocle
mode to set full screen on the user's end, by not maximizing windows
when sending hint to the window it allows users
2010/5/30 Anselm R Garbe :
> On 29 May 2010 22:18, Sylvain Laurent wrote:
>> 2010/5/29 Kris Maglione :
>>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 07:59:39PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
On 29 May 2010 19:17, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>
> On 29 May 2010 18:18, Kris Maglione wrote:
>>
>> On
On 29 May 2010 22:18, Sylvain Laurent wrote:
> 2010/5/29 Kris Maglione :
>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 07:59:39PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>>>
>>> On 29 May 2010 19:17, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
On 29 May 2010 18:18, Kris Maglione wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 01:12:15PM +010
[2010-05-30 00:29] Moritz Wilhelmy
> > You mean, install is just meant as a wrapper around the standard
> > tools
> > to express the actions in a more compact way. (btw: It's a shame that
> > install isn't a shell script then.)
>
> Well. why isn't man(1) a shell-script?
It used to be. (And it
[2010-05-29 18:15] Kris Maglione
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:56:26PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> >[2010-05-29 23:46] Moritz Wilhelmy
> >> > Very often I see makefile use install(1) when cp, mkdir, chmod, and
> >> > Co. would be equally compact.
> >>
> >> Consider
> >>
> >> install -D -m755 -
On Sat, 29 May 2010 22:14:45 -0700
Will Light wrote:
> arch linux has netcfg, which I use. it, like wicd, can be a little
> warty, but the whole thing is written in bash and doesn't require a
> UI. adding network profiles is done through editing conf files in
> /etc/network.d/
>
> http://wiki.
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