Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Preben Randhol
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:14:12 +0100 Christoph Dibak wrote: > I had to learn Ada at university. First I thought that this Pascal > Syntax simply sucks. But then I realized that Ada is realy nice. > > The best part of Ada is that it is strongly-typed. I think also it is > a good compromise between

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Aled Gest
2009/11/11 Antoni Grzymala : > Looks like you didn't give more than half a minute's time, to see what > Lisp's syntax (or rather the lack of it) is actually about. Your hopes > are vain. It doesn't take long to judge clarity. Perhaps experience is a critical factor but to me it seems a lot easier

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Christoph Dibak
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:46:02PM +0100, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:00:53PM +0100, Preben Randhol wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:06 -0500 > > Kris Maglione wrote: > > > > > Looks more like Limbo/NewSqueak. And the mascot's kind of > > > Glenda-ish (plus you mentio

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-11-11 18:53] Aled Gest > 2009/11/11 markus schnalke : > > Then you never tried Lisp! > > I hope that's sarcasm, because I wouldn't call requiring everything to > be wrapped in parentheses clean :P It wasn't. I assume now even more, you never came much in contact with Lisp. Laughing on th

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Moritz Wilhelmy dixit (2009-11-11, 19:46): > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:06 -0500 > > Kris Maglione wrote: > > > > > Looks more like Limbo/NewSqueak. And the mascot's kind of > > > Glenda-ish (plus you mentioned Rob), so I wouldn't doubt it. > > > If Rob was involved, I very much doubt that Ad

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Aled Gest dixit (2009-11-11, 18:53): > > Then you never tried Lisp! > > I hope that's sarcasm, because I wouldn't call requiring everything to > be wrapped in parentheses clean :P Looks like you didn't give more than half a minute's time, to see what Lisp's syntax (or rather the lack of it) is a

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2009-11-11 Thread Jack Woehr
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Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Jack Woehr
Julien Steinhauser wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:53:48PM +, Aled Gest wrote: 2009/11/11 markus schnalke : Then you never tried Lisp! I hope that's sarcasm, because I wouldn't call requiring everything to be wrapped in parentheses clean :P I guess this thread could

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Julien Steinhauser
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:53:48PM +, Aled Gest wrote: > > 2009/11/11 markus schnalke : > > Then you never tried Lisp! > > I hope that's sarcasm, because I wouldn't call requiring everything to > be wrapped in parentheses clean :P > I guess this thread could easily turn into a big hairy trol

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Aled Gest
2009/11/11 markus schnalke : > Then you never tried Lisp! I hope that's sarcasm, because I wouldn't call requiring everything to be wrapped in parentheses clean :P

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:00:53PM +0100, Preben Randhol wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:06 -0500 > Kris Maglione wrote: > > > Looks more like Limbo/NewSqueak. And the mascot's kind of > > Glenda-ish (plus you mentioned Rob), so I wouldn't doubt it. > > If Rob was involved, I very much doubt

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Moritz Wilhelmy
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 05:59:19PM +0100, Preben Randhol wrote: > Syntactically the language seems a bit confusing at first and > unfortunately too similar to C. It looks a like a messy mix of C and pascal. Would be better without the pascal part.

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-11-11 17:40] Aled Gest > 2009/11/11 Preben Randhol : > > Syntactically the language seems a bit confusing at first and > > unfortunately too similar to C. > > I don't get what people have against the C syntax. It's the cleanest > and most logical syntax I've come across so far. Then you n

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Aled Gest
2009/11/11 Preben Randhol : > Syntactically the language seems a bit confusing at first and > unfortunately too similar to C. I don't get what people have against the C syntax. It's the cleanest and most logical syntax I've come across so far. Has anybody had any experience compiling Go on BSD ye

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread pmarin
I miss the Brian Kernighan's tutorial... On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > 2009/11/11 Julien Steinhauser : >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:06:55AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >>> >>> I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm >>> implemented in Go) >

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Preben Randhol
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:06 -0500 Kris Maglione wrote: > Looks more like Limbo/NewSqueak. And the mascot's kind of > Glenda-ish (plus you mentioned Rob), so I wouldn't doubt it. > If Rob was involved, I very much doubt that Ada was an > intentional influence. Actally, it seems very much more

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Preben Randhol
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:04:07 + Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Well there is gccgo for performance worried people. At the moment the gccgo is slower than the 6g compiler, but according to Rob the compiled code is better with gccgo At the moment speed is 10-20% slower than pure C, but you get all t

Re: [dev] debian, again

2009-11-11 Thread Davide Anchisi
I succeded in compiling a *.deb package using 'make deb' modifing a line in mk/wmii.mk, for LIBS9, I used the absolute path to the various lib/lib*.a The package compiles and I got a *deb package, even if some warnings and an error remain. >From the output: dh: Unknown sequence .depend (choose fr

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/11 Julien Steinhauser : > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:06:55AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> >> I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm >> implemented in Go) >> > > I see a second way of reading the name, I'm sure I'm not alone. It must be by accident ;) Kind r

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Julien Steinhauser
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:06:55AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > > I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm > implemented in Go) > I see a second way of reading the name, I'm sure I'm not alone. > Kind regards, > Anselm > >

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Mate Nagy
Hello, > I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm > implemented in Go) i'd be interested in helping with this Regards, Mate

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:46:27PM +0100, pancake wrote: About the compiler stuff..i dont really know if they can generate good code, I mean, related to code optimizations they are assembling it all together in a very good way, but I dont see any post optimization process which will involve autom

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/11 pancake : > rob pike, russ cox and ken thomson are in the list of CONTRIBUTORS. Yes, that makes me not ignore that lang. > I will also like to know if there's any interface for C and how to use it. It seems to be possible, though it's not officially supported yet wrt Russ: Have a loo

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread pancake
rob pike, russ cox and ken thomson are in the list of CONTRIBUTORS. I see 'go' as the limbo for the masses. Google did the things well (again). They get the best people able to design a language and a compiler and put it together in a single mashup. The compiler is pretty similar to the plan9 o

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-11-11 11:06] Anselm R Garbe > > I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm > implemented in Go) Great name! :-) meillo

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Kris Maglione
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:22:42AM +0100, Preben Randhol wrote: I noticed that Google has released and opened sourced the Go language (http://golang.org). I watched the tech talk by Rob Pike and it seems interesting, although it didn't answer all questions. Go seems to be based on C, Python, Ada,

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/11 Preben Randhol : > I noticed that Google has released and opened sourced the Go language > (http://golang.org). I watched the tech talk by Rob Pike and it seems > interesting, although it didn't answer all questions. Go seems to be based > on C, Python, Ada, Pascal/Modula/Oberon language

[dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-11 Thread Preben Randhol
I noticed that Google has released and opened sourced the Go language (http://golang.org). I watched the tech talk by Rob Pike and it seems interesting, although it didn't answer all questions. Go seems to be based on C, Python, Ada, Pascal/Modula/Oberon languages. Though it would be interesting a