Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Jacob Todd
Because acme/sam/wily/whatever is so fucking awesome. Plan 9 != autoawesome. On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 03:10:20AM +0200, Uriel wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Claudio M. Alessi wrote: > > Vim is a textbook example of how *never* *ever* design a program's > user interface. > > uriel

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Jacob Todd
And that's where uzbl, surf, and vimpression come in. On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:39:41PM +0200, hiro wrote: > Web browsers suck more and more. > -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpUNQUXf2xOF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Claudio M. Alessi wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:59:01PM +0200, Uriel wrote: >> You guess wrong. > Since your problem is a correct behave of ^W an such "unix" shortcuts I think > I guessed right. That is *one* of my problems, nowhere I said that that was my on

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Leandro Chescotta wrote: > [...] > La información del presente documento es clasificada como Confidencial. WTF?

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
You are judging it by the gtk linux port, which is clearly useless and braindead (IIRC they even use glade *yuck*). The whole point is that it doesn't really depend on any toolkit, there is even a framebuffer port, so it should be trivial (compared to webkit) to build a sane interface for it. As f

RE: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Leandro Chescotta
I think the web sucks more and more... i think all internet sites need to have a flash and a text-browser-friendly versión, if they insist of using flash. Maybe a search engine like wulfram alpha, where you don't browse looking for a specific site, but information instead, and it formats that in

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread hiro
Web browsers suck more and more.

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Paul O'Leary McCann
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:59:01PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Claudio M. Alessi wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 09:51:59AM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: > >> this is the biggest reason I hate firefox too.  ^u should not view > >> source, it should erase the damn line. > >

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Enno Boland (Gottox)
2009/7/3, Alex Matviychuk : > Very cool, thanks! Any way to zoom in or increase text size? That's > the only thing I need to make this replace firefox a lot of the time > for me. ctrl+[+] ctrl+[-] > Cheers, > > Alex > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:29 PM, totoloco wrote: > > > There is a PKGBUILD

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Claudio M. Alessi
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:59:01PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > You guess wrong. Since your problem is a correct behave of ^W an such "unix" shortcuts I think I guessed right. > This is a bug and a sign of how much FireFox sucks. You are likely right; though it's obvious that you can still *fully* custom

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 7/3/09, Uriel wrote: > to go, at the moment I really like Net-Surf > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ it is the only browser around written > in a sane language that doesn't depend on any braindead toolkit and > has the potential to be usable. answering from netsurf.. * feels a bit faster than

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Connor Smith
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:51:52 -0400 Robert C Corsaro wrote: > fluxbox used to have a "tab" feature where the window title would be > split into tabs so you'd have one frame for many windows. Perhaps > wmii could have a similar feature as a mode. like stacked, max, > normal and +tabbed. If I re

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Robert C Corsaro
Connor Smith wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:27:45 +0900 Alex Matviychuk wrote: Good point. Do you think a tabbed interface is inappropriate as well or is that something that would be considered a valid component? Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't pick up m

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Robert C Corsaro
yy wrote: 2009/7/3 Alex Matviychuk : Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't pick up most of the ads adblock targets. Actually, a good private proxy with greasemonkey support would be really useful for me. I found GrimeApe, but it is written in Java (eek

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Claudio M. Alessi wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 09:51:59AM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: >> this is the biggest reason I hate firefox too.  ^u should not view >> source, it should erase the damn line. > I guess you (and Uriel) would be happy with the VIMperator extes

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Claudio M. Alessi
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 09:51:59AM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: > this is the biggest reason I hate firefox too. ^u should not view > source, it should erase the damn line. I guess you (and Uriel) would be happy with the VIMperator extesion. Take in mind that FireFox is *fully* customizable; it shou

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
> If it was a "plugin" of sorts (ie, optional), I think it would very > neat. Having not looked at the source for surf, I don't know how that > would work... I somewhat doubt surf has an extensions API. ;) In the > worst case, a factotum patch could at least be written. API? God, I hope not, that

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
I wrote a chrome extension that fixes this ;) http://repo.cat-v.org/burning_chrome/hosaka/ I might write a similar extension for Firefox some day.. uriel On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Uriel wrote: >> This reminds me that it would be very c

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Connor Smith
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:51:59 -0500 Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Uriel wrote: > > This reminds me that it would be very cool if surf could use > > factotum/secstore ( > > http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/auth ) from p9p to > > store and manage passwords. >

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Uriel wrote: > This reminds me that it would be very cool if surf could use > factotum/secstore ( > http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/auth ) from p9p to > store and manage passwords. it would be cooler if we didn't have *yet another* useful thing crufte

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Connor Smith wrote: > The impression I get from Surf is that it, like uzbl, adheres to > the Unix philosophy by "doing one thing" - it renders web pages. One of > the problems that arises from having your bookmarks, passwords, etc all > managed by a single monolithi

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Luca Postregna
thanks, no problem with: #> eix webkit -Ic [I] net-libs/webkit-gtk (1.1...@07/03/2009): Open source web browser en On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > 2009/7/2 Luca Postregna : > > In my gentoo-box, with: > > > > #> eix webkit -Ic > > [I] net-libs/webkit-gtk (0_p40220...@07

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Bobby
I could see this very useful in web design. I would like to embed this in an Emacs buffer or window and then render a page on my local server. I could then make some simple Emacs-like shortcut wrappers so that I could refresh surf without switching windows. I could even implement some of the bookma

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread totoloco
En 02/07/2009 21:58:01, Samuel Baldwin escribió: I'm wondering how people use this; I normally have upwards of 30 tabs open in firefox at a given time. I understand the idea is to let the window manager manage the instances, but for someone like me, this doesn't work too well. I suppose I coul

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Connor Smith
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:27:45 +0900 Alex Matviychuk wrote: > Good point. Do you think a tabbed interface is inappropriate as well > or is that something that would be considered a valid component? > > Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't > pick up most of the ads a

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread carmen
On Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 09:53:57AM +0200, yy wrote: > 2009/7/3 Alex Matviychuk : > > Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't > > pick up most of the ads adblock targets. > > > > Actually, a good private proxy with greasemonkey support would be > really useful for me.

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread carmen
> Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't > pick up most of the ads adblock targets. disabling JS and using an /etc/hosts file like http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > > On 7/3/09, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > >>

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread yy
2009/7/3 Alex Matviychuk : > Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't > pick up most of the ads adblock targets. > Actually, a good private proxy with greasemonkey support would be really useful for me. I found GrimeApe, but it is written in Java (eek!). -- - yiyus

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Daniel Cordero
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 09:48:21 +0900, Alex Matviychuk wrote: > Very cool, thanks! Any way to zoom in or increase text size? That's > the only thing I need to make this replace firefox a lot of the time > for me. Ctrl-plus (shift+equals) and Ctrl-minus. Reset it with Ctrl+0.

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Alex Matviychuk
Good point. Do you think a tabbed interface is inappropriate as well or is that something that would be considered a valid component? Also, does anyone know of a good stand alone adblock? Privoxy doesn't pick up most of the ads adblock targets. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:

Re: [dev] surf: web browser on archlinux

2009-07-03 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 7/3/09, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > I suppose I could "cut back" a bit, but then I'd need some way of > managing bookmarks. If this could manage bookmarks and passwords, I'd > jump on it as my primary browser. that's an entirely different task, don't confuse it with web page rendering