BATS tests failing on main

2023-10-17 Thread Eric Pugh
I just checked Jenkins https://builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Check-main/lastBuild/console and noticed that the BATS tests appear to be failing. Judging from the error message, we have some Solr processes running that aren’t getting cleaned up properly.. Even by the test_zz_cleanup.bats

Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

2023-10-17 Thread Jason Gerlowski
> Personally I think Confluence (in-place) is fine. Maybe start this way > because it's simple & adequate? +1 I think the simplest option is best for getting started, and then we can iterate from there if we find Confluence lackluster, etc. Best, Jason On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:42 PM David

Re: [DISCUSS] Community Virtual Meetup, October 2023

2023-10-17 Thread Jason Gerlowski
Thanks for volunteering Alejandro. Option 1 works for me. Ping me here or on Slack if you run into any permission issues (in Confluence, Meetup.com, etc.) getting things setup for the meetup; happy to help! > eating your own dogfood kind of competitions I really like the idea! Though I agree w

Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

2023-10-17 Thread Eric Pugh
I’m really looking forward to these coming out (in whatever form) on a regular basis ;-). > On Oct 17, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Jason Gerlowski wrote: > >> Personally I think Confluence (in-place) is fine. Maybe start this way >> because it's simple & adequate? > > +1 I think the simplest option

Re: [Operator] [VOTE] Release the Solr Operator v0.8.0 RC1

2023-10-17 Thread Houston Putman
+1 (binding) I ran the smoke tests: > Successfully smoke tested the Solr Operator v0.8.0! I also ran the end-to-end integration tests with the RC docker image and Solr 9.4 and 8.11 $ make e2e-tests OPERATOR_IMAGE=apache/solr-operator:v0.8.0-rc1 > SOLR_IMAGE=solr:9.4 ...

Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

2023-10-17 Thread Arrieta, Alejandro
Hello Team, Glad to be able to help. :-) @Jason, I confirm I can now edit Solr's wiki. I just created the next meeting notes. I will add the newsletter section to Solr's wiki with Jason and David's comments later today. I spent some time during Solr Navigator presentation at the Solr Hackathon to

Rerank / rewritten queries never get cached in queryResultCache?

2023-10-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi all, I'm noticing an issue where rerank queries never appear to enter the Solr queryResultCache You can notice this, as a user, by simply repeating requests to a node. You'll get an instantaneous response repeating most Solr queries. However, repeating anything with rq= added, each response ta

Re: Rerank / rewritten queries never get cached in queryResultCache?

2023-10-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
My google-fu got better -- FWIW This looks like an issue fixed in the normal rerank query code, but not in LTR, which is a different query parser / query path? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-7689 On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:03 PM Doug Turnbull wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm noticing an issu

Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

2023-10-17 Thread David Smiley
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 1:01 PM Arrieta, Alejandro < aarri...@perrinsoftware.com> wrote: > > Editing: I agree with David's comments. > I would add only one thing. The September edition is finished/over unless > something is wrong with it and needs to be fixed. Draft or not draft that > is the Sep

The _version_ field; why is it necessary?

2023-10-17 Thread David Smiley
Question: Does the _version_ field have a purpose other than for "atomic updates"? I know SolrCloud and/or having an UpdateLog insists on it. But I don't know if it's for that feature alone, or for additional non-obvious internal workings of SolrCloud. Mostly I'm just asking to have a deeper unde

Re: The _version_ field; why is it necessary?

2023-10-17 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
To ensure reordered updates are processed properly from leader to other replicas in NRT replication mode. On Wed, 18 Oct, 2023, 9:55 am David Smiley, wrote: > Question: Does the _version_ field have a purpose other than for "atomic > updates"? > I know SolrCloud and/or having an UpdateLog insist

Re: The _version_ field; why is it necessary?

2023-10-17 Thread Gus Heck
I think the core use case for it is optimistic concurrency https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/indexing-guide/partial-document-updates.html#optimistic-concurrency On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:25 AM David Smiley wrote: > Question: Does the _version_ field have a purpose other than for "atomi

Re: The _version_ field; why is it necessary?

2023-10-17 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Also DBQs use the version field to ensure they are applied correctly, even if a DBQ is reordered On Wed, 18 Oct, 2023, 10:05 am Ishan Chattopadhyaya, < ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > To ensure reordered updates are processed properly from leader to other > replicas in NRT replication mode. >

Re: The _version_ field; why is it necessary?

2023-10-17 Thread Mark Miller
The primary reason is as Ishan says - so that update reorders from leader to replica can be handled in both normal and failure cases. It’s also true that a part of the reason that the per document, NRT design, with versions, was chosen was a desire to support per document optimistic concurrency.

Re: The _version_ field; why is it necessary?

2023-10-17 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Fyi, SOLR-5944, is unreadable, but introduced the concept of previous version or something like that. On Wed, 18 Oct, 2023, 10:35 am Mark Miller, wrote: > The primary reason is as Ishan says - so that update reorders from leader > to replica can be handled in both normal and failure cases. > > I

Re: Apache Solr Newsletter proposal September 2023

2023-10-17 Thread Arrieta, Alejandro
Hello Team, > I'm not very comfortable over-publicizing what I view as a first draft of >the first edition. Sure, no problem. Nothing shared. >What is 10-20-30 about? The number of news/links available for that newsletter. We need to decide on the minimum news (non-relevant, like a new release) t