Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread Marcus Eagan
+1 on deprecating bin/post. I haven't used it in many years either. On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 7:30 PM Joel Bernstein wrote: > I have mixed feelings about this because I love command line tools. But I > haven't actually used the bin/post tool in years. > > > > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 10:13 AM David

Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread Joel Bernstein
I have mixed feelings about this because I love command line tools. But I haven't actually used the bin/post tool in years. On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 10:13 AM David Smiley wrote: > +1 to deprecate bin/post. > > Eric, RE the issue title... it's better. Still, if I were advocating for > the work

Re: Hybrid scoring lexical / vector

2023-05-23 Thread Mikhail Khludnev
Hello, Joel. Here's my idea https://lists.apache.org/thread/6t45p5fk4hldrt1833kvrbobdd2pk265 On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:20 PM Joel Bernstein wrote: > One of the things that I'm focusing on is combining the Solr similarity > score with the vector score in a consistent manner. My main concern is

Hybrid scoring lexical / vector

2023-05-23 Thread Joel Bernstein
One of the things that I'm focusing on is combining the Solr similarity score with the vector score in a consistent manner. My main concern is dealing with the unbounded nature of the Solr similarity score and how to balance that with a vector score. So my first question are there any mechanisms n

Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread David Smiley
+1 to deprecate bin/post. Eric, RE the issue title... it's better. Still, if I were advocating for the work (and I'm definitely not), I'd have a dedicated issue nonetheless, may or may not even have a separate Windows issue if it gets fixed by side effect of moving the functionality. ~ David Smi

Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread Gus Heck
I say this despite the fact I know it will break some folks because anyone relying on post.jar for a non-trivial use case will either have such a horrible experience that they eventually move to elastic/opensearch or they will write their own code anyway. The harm to future users is heavier. On Tu

Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread Gus Heck
I know of divisions of very large companies that have specifically done this, and even a product that wrote their "integrate with solr" suggesting to use post.jar and then sold to customers saying that they supported solr integration. post.jar should die. The "stream a large file" use case should

Re: Solr collection naming convention (/how to find historical decision making)

2023-05-23 Thread Gus Heck
Collection naming discussions that I recall were probably more than 24 months ago. One good strategy is git blame in the relevant code. That should lead you to a commit hash and a commit message. The message would mention the Jira ticket. The jira ticket would hopefully have discussion, sometimes (

Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread Arrieta, Alejandro
Hello Team, In previous Solr versions, afaik examples post tool did not support Kerberos (have not checked Solr 9.x), so each time a customer asked about the Apache Solr tutorial I recommended them to use curl command as it works with/without kerberos (curl --negotiate ). There are some curls

Re: Dueling Umbrellas ;-)

2023-05-23 Thread Eric Pugh
Wouldn’t it be cool if SolrCLI used Graal under the covers? One thing about the various bin/solr tools that folks mentioned was that they can be handy when you have complex auth scenarios, and that they can support these natively. One thing I’d like to see in the future is to have all the com

Re: Anyone using more obscure features of SimplePostTool?

2023-05-23 Thread Eric Pugh
Lots of feedback! So, would renaming SOLR-6994 from "Implement Windows version of bin/post" to “Implement Windows version of bin/post via implementing bin/solr post” address your concern David? It’s both for Solr technical simplicity, but also to let Window’s users actually have better s