Re: New branch and feature freeze for Solr 9.0.0

2022-01-09 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Thanks Jan for the flexibility, esp with respect to the vector search thing. If it happens to be ready within your proposed timelines, it will be a good thing for our project. I don't advocate delaying the release, though. > Honestly, if you are out of the chair when the music stops, you look more

Re: New branch and feature freeze for Solr 9.0.0

2022-01-09 Thread Noble Paul
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:57 AM Jan Høydahl wrote: > > Hi, > > This is quite simple. > - The 9.0 release is on-going - now on branch_9_0 > - The normal feature feeze rules apply. Anything explicitly approved as > blocker gets in > > We can still consider adding features to the branch if the benf

Re: Disable metrics reporting to JMX

2022-01-09 Thread Mark Miller
JMX is really a toy metric system and comes with potential security concerns that have to be considered and managed over time. The cost in the case you are seeing has also been potentially much worse in the past - a variety of expensive metrics are now cached I believe - but as it iterated over

Disable metrics reporting to JMX

2022-01-09 Thread David Smiley
I noticed Solr auto-creates a metrics SolrJmxReporter if there is a platform "MBeanServer" that exists, which AFAICT is always. Thanks? Ehh, no thanks. It's not evident how to disable JMX after some fruitless google searches. Don't get me wrong, I like jconsole, jvisualvm, JFR etc and I think s

Re: New branch and feature freeze for Solr 9.0.0

2022-01-09 Thread Mark Miller
Can’t restrain myself. The discussion whether we have "enough features" is i.m.o. silly Lucene used to release major versions with something like no features and just deprecation work. It’s historically common, but the silly smell reminds me of the stereotypical kid selling his parents on some

Re: New branch and feature freeze for Solr 9.0.0

2022-01-09 Thread Cassandra Targett
One thing we haven’t talked about yet is the Ref Guide for 9.0. SOLR-1 re-organized the entire guide and changed a lot of page names. At the time I merged this into the main branch there was a little bit of comment about trying to provide page redirects for the changed page names but AFAIK n

Re: New branch and feature freeze for Solr 9.0.0

2022-01-09 Thread Jan Høydahl
Hi, This is quite simple. - The 9.0 release is on-going - now on branch_9_0 - The normal feature feeze rules apply. Anything explicitly approved as blocker gets in We can still consider adding features to the branch if the benfit/risk ratio is high enough. Having a long stabilization period al

Re: Propose Solr 9 *Docker* image use Java 17

2022-01-09 Thread Mark Miller
That is generally an expected trade off when using the new collectors - perhaps a 15% hit to throughput due to locking in concurrent compaction but better latency with the shorter pauses. The last I saw, for smaller heaps, G1 generally wins - better throughput and latency that’s just as good.