Answers inline below.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 5:56 AM Timothy Potter wrote:
> One last thought on this for me ... I think it would be beneficial for
> the SIP to address how this new feature will work with the existing
> shards.preference solution and affinity based placement plugin.
>
I was mor
Sorry for the lateness of this, but I'd like to get
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15761 committed tomorrow
(Wednesday) and backport for 8.11. It's a very small change.
Joel Bernstein
http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:46 PM Adrien Grand wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
>
One last thought on this for me ... I think it would be beneficial for
the SIP to address how this new feature will work with the existing
shards.preference solution and affinity based placement plugin.
Moreover, your pseudo-replica solution sounds like a new replica type
vs. a node level thing. Th
Also, in a cluster where new collections/shards/replicas are continuously
added all the time, it would be pretty awkward to start a node (in regular
mode), briefly have it become eligible for replica assignment, then
invoking a replica placement rule/autoscaling policy for that node to not
place re
If we were to tell users how to do "scatter gather on an empty node", *how
exactly* would you recommend users have an empty node to begin with?
Wouldn't you say something like "for 8x you can do this (rule based replica
placement) or do that (autoscaling), but for 9x you do this new thing".
Having
> Btw ~ I only mentioned the Zookeeper part b/c it's in your SIP as a
specific role
Sorry for the confusion, I mentioned it in the SIP because Jan wrote in the
JIRA that it can be a potential role. However, specific details about that
feel out of scope for this discussion here, which is only about
As opposed to what? Looking up the configset for the addressed
collection and pulling whatever information it needs from cached data.
I'm sure there are some nuances but I hardly think you need a node
role framework to deal with determine the unique key field to do
scatter gather on an empty node w
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 10:46 AM Timothy Potter wrote:
> I'm not missing the point of the query coordinator, but I actually
> didn't realize that an empty Solr node would forward the top-level
> request onward instead of just being the query controller itself? That
> actually seems like a bug vs. a
I'm not missing the point of the query coordinator, but I actually
didn't realize that an empty Solr node would forward the top-level
request onward instead of just being the query controller itself? That
actually seems like a bug vs. a feature, IMO any node that receives
the top-level query should
Hi Tim,
Here are my responses inline.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 3:22 AM Timothy Potter wrote:
> I'm just not convinced this feature is even needed and the SIP is not
> convincing that "There is no proper alternative today."
>
There are no proper alternatives today, just hacks. On 8x, we have two
d
A note about Overseer, since the fact that we want to eventually remove it
got mentioned twice in the node roles SIP email thread: in Solr 9 the
Overseer is there by default, unchanged, but two config parameters allow to
not use it for cluster state updates and collection API command executions
(i.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 8:52 AM Timothy Potter wrote:
>
> I'm just not convinced this feature is even needed and the SIP is not
> convincing that "There is no proper alternative today."
>
> 1) Just b/c Elastic and Vespa have a concept of node roles, doesn't
> mean Solr needs this. Also, some of Ela
I'm just not convinced this feature is even needed and the SIP is not
convincing that "There is no proper alternative today."
1) Just b/c Elastic and Vespa have a concept of node roles, doesn't
mean Solr needs this. Also, some of Elastic's roles overlap with
concepts Solr already has in a differen
I think there are things not yet accounted for. Time I spent yesterday is
biting me today. Pls give a couple days.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 11:28 AM Jason Gerlowski
wrote:
> Hey Ishan,
>
> I appreciate you writing up the SIP! Here's some notes/questions I
> had as I was reading through your write
Hi Jason,
This looks bad indeed. Please feel free to backport to 8.11 and update this
thread when you are done?
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:24 PM Jason Gerlowski
wrote:
> Hey Adrien,
>
> A pretty bad bug in Solr backups came in last week or so: SOLR-15706.
> If it's not too late I'd like to try to
Hi Jason,
my responses inline
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:28 AM Jason Gerlowski wrote:
>
> Hey Ishan,
>
> I appreciate you writing up the SIP! Here's some notes/questions I
> had as I was reading through your writeup and this mail thread.
> ("" separators between thoughts, hopefully that helps
Hey Adrien,
A pretty bad bug in Solr backups came in last week or so: SOLR-15706.
If it's not too late I'd like to try to get it into 8.11. Would that
be ok?
I'm just digging into things now so I don't have a complete
understanding yet, but I'm optimistic it won't long delay your
timeline for cu
Should be fixed now.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:46 PM Houston Putman
wrote:
> Yep, I will fix it. Sorry for the issue.
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:27 PM Adrien Grand wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The first build of
>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Lucene/job/Lucene-Solr-Tests-8.11/
>> failed with
Yep, I will fix it. Sorry for the issue.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:27 PM Adrien Grand wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The first build of
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Lucene/job/Lucene-Solr-Tests-8.11/
> failed with the following error:
> Source checkout is dirty (unversioned/missing files) after runnin
Hello,
Assuming CI is green and no blockers have been raised until then, I plan to
build the first release candidate for Lucene/Solr 8.11 on Thursday November
4th.
Please let me know if you are aware of any blocker that we should address
before building the first RC.
--
Adrien
Hello,
The first build of
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Lucene/job/Lucene-Solr-Tests-8.11/ failed
with the following error:
Source checkout is dirty (unversioned/missing files) after running tests!!!
Offending files:
* solr/licenses/annotations-2.17.63.jar.sha1
Can someone look into it? I can
Hey Ishan,
I appreciate you writing up the SIP! Here's some notes/questions I
had as I was reading through your writeup and this mail thread.
("" separators between thoughts, hopefully that helps.)
I'll add my vote to what Jan, Gus, Ilan, and Houston already
suggested: roles should def
Are there any unaddressed outstanding concerns that we should hold up the
SIP for?
On Mon, 1 Nov, 2021, 10:31 pm Ishan Chattopadhyaya, <
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Agree. However, I disagree with ideas where "query analysis" has a role
>> of its own. Where would that lead us to? Separ
Hello,
I added a skeleton for the Solr 8.11 release higlights at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Release+Notes+8.11. Can
you help me fill the blanks?
--
Adrien
Adding Solr dev for 8.11 info.
-- Forwarded message -
From: Adrien Grand
Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:08 AM
Subject: 8.11 and 9.0 feature freeze
To: Lucene Dev
Hello all,
I just created branches in preparation for the upcoming 8.11 and 9.0
releases. Here's how branches map to L
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