More rigorous terminology - Was: Terminology proposal: "Maven module" -> "Maven sub-project"

Hi, just a long term Maven user here, but I'd like to chime, as I don't think renaming module to subproject is that big an improvement. In fact, it may actually lead to *more* confusion. Here's why: Maven has two *orthogonal* ways how to projects can relate to each other: aggregation and inherit

Re: Terminology proposal: "Maven module" -> "Maven sub-project"

Guillaume Nodet wrote: Maybe now is the time to re(de)fine our terminology: https://maven.apache.org/glossary.html. Yes, please! In fact, I didn't even know about the glossary (after 10+ years of using Maven). It's not linked from the POM Reference, for example. At any rate, I have just pro

Re: More rigorous terminology - Was: Terminology proposal: "Maven module" -> "Maven sub-project"

Hi Andreas, it took me some years to find relevant articles and documentation on the maven site. And still it is not easy to find documentation in the depth needed. I would regret if "module" was changed. It is, as it is now, the best description and semantics of what it is. Maybe we should pr

Re: More rigorous terminology - Was: Terminology proposal: "Maven module" -> "Maven sub-project"

I agree that subproject is odd and even more confusing, because the real project (== those with packaging != pom) can't contain Of course a parent can also include but this is not required and often separated also a single project might occur in different aggregators and so on. Am 16.08.24

Re: More rigorous terminology - Was: Terminology proposal: "Maven module" -> "Maven sub-project"

> On 16. Aug 2024, at 10:24, Christoph Läubrich wrote: > >> I would hence restrict the use of "sub-something" to inheritance (think >> "sub-class") and never use it to discussion aggregation. In particular, >> "submodule" is really redundant, as a module is always below an >> aggregator by defi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Shared Jarsigner version 3.1.0

+1 On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 2:11 PM Slawomir Jaranowski wrote: > Hi, > > We solved 9 issues: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12317922&version=12344384 > > There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%2

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.9.9 (respin #1)

+1 śr., 14 sie 2024 o 11:01 Tamás Cservenák napisał(a): > Howdy, > > Respin #1: mvn shell script fix, removal of "bashism": > https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/1653 > > We solved 13 issues: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12316922&version=12354823 > > Ther

Re: [DISCUSS] maven-core-plugin

Just an outsider here, but I agree with Guillaume. Also I think Tamas' proposal is to merge the existing plugins, so the repo of the old plugins will be probably archived and the old plugins code will be moved to the new plugin repo. Since the old plugins will not evolve and maintained by ASF, and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.9.9 (respin #1)

Am 2024-08-14 um 11:00 schrieb Tamás Cservenák: Howdy, Respin #1: mvn shell script fix, removal of "bashism": https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/1653 We solved 13 issues: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12316922&version=12354823 There are still a couple of is

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Surefire version 3.4.0

Am 2024-08-15 um 22:06 schrieb Michael Osipov: Hi, we solved 3 issues: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12317927&version=12354945 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SUREFIRE%20AND%20resoluti

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Fluido Skin version 2.0.0-M10

Am 2024-08-15 um 19:36 schrieb Michael Osipov: Hi, we solved 3 issues: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12317926&version=12354803 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MSKINS%20AND%20resolution

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Site Plugin version 3.20.0

Ok, with Fluido 2.0.0-M9 is better ... But with Maven 4 I have: [DEBUG] Looking for site descriptor of level 1 parent project: org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:pom:44-SNAPSHOT [DEBUG] No parent level 1 site descriptor [DEBUG] Looking for site descriptor of level 2 parent project: org.apache

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Site Plugin version 3.20.0

Am 2024-08-16 um 21:08 schrieb Slawomir Jaranowski: Ok, with Fluido 2.0.0-M9 is better ... But with Maven 4 I have: [DEBUG] Looking for site descriptor of level 1 parent project: org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:pom:44-SNAPSHOT [DEBUG] No parent level 1 site descriptor [DEBUG] Looking for

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Site Plugin version 3.20.0

+1 We should add info about migration, like requirement for Fluido 2.x But can be as first step śr., 14 sie 2024 o 18:06 Michael Osipov napisał(a): > Hi, > > NOTE: Read the details on this release here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Towards+Doxia+2.0.0+Stack#TowardsDoxia

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.9.9 (respin #1)

+1 On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 at 7:01 PM, Tamás Cservenák wrote: > Howdy, > > Respin #1: mvn shell script fix, removal of "bashism": > https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/1653 > > We solved 13 issues: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12316922&version=12354823 > > Th

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.9.9 (respin #1)

+1 non-binding from me. -- "Great artists are extremely selfish and arrogant things" — Steven Wilson, Porcupine Tree On 17 Aug 2024 at 4:35:57 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > +1 > > >

Re: More rigorous terminology - Was: Terminology proposal: "Maven module" -> "Maven sub-project"

Le ven. 16 août 2024 à 09:51, Andreas Sewe a écrit : > > Hi, > > just a long term Maven user here, but I'd like to chime, as I don't > think renaming module to subproject is that big an improvement. In fact, > it may actually lead to *more* confusion. Here's why: > > Maven has two *orthogonal* way