Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Christian Schulte
Am 11/26/12 00:49, schrieb Jason van Zyl: > It's easy enough to not push the tag, or blow it away. > > So I'll just stage it again. All I am saying is that this tag will be incorrect, if you ever need to re-create another 3.1.0 tag in subsversi

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2012/11/26 Stephen Connolly : >> Well technically we only vote on the sources *not* the binaries *nor* the > > You don't test the binaries we will propose to users for download ? > Do you think users download sources to build maven locally ? >

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Olivier Lamy
2012/11/26 Stephen Connolly : > Well technically we only vote on the sources *not* the binaries *nor* the You don't test the binaries we will propose to users for download ? Do you think users download sources to build maven locally ? So for me binaries we produce as important as sources as long a

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
Well technically we only vote on the sources *not* the binaries *nor* the SCM tag... We just have tge habit if giving the tag for good form... With the move to GIT, I don't see it as Bering so critical... You can always include the tag hash ID in the vote email and reproducibility isn't so importan

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Olivier Lamy
2012/11/25 Jason van Zyl : > > On Nov 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > >> >> On 26/11/2012, at 6:42 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >> >>> I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or takes >>> the time to even try anything until it's actually released. >> >> 3.0.4 had

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
It's easy enough to not push the tag, or blow it away. So I'll just stage it again. On Nov 25, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > +1 > > > On 25 November 2012 23:09, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Christian Schulte wrote: >>> Am 11/25/12 20:42, schr

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On 25 November 2012 23:09, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Christian Schulte wrote: > > Am 11/25/12 20:42, schrieb Jason van Zyl: > >> I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or > takes the time to even try anything until it's actually rele

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Christian Schulte wrote: > Am 11/25/12 20:42, schrieb Jason van Zyl: >> I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or takes the >> time to even try anything until it's actually released. >> >> It's not hard to make RCs. So if folks want them,

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Christian Schulte
Am 11/25/12 20:42, schrieb Jason van Zyl: > I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or takes the > time to even try anything until it's actually released. > > It's not hard to make RCs. So if folks want them, not a problem, I can roll > an RC. > > Anyone have an opinion?

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Nov 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > > On 26/11/2012, at 6:42 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > >> I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or takes the >> time to even try anything until it's actually released. > > 3.0.4 had 5 RCs from memory, and so far, 3.1.

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Brett Porter
On 26/11/2012, at 6:42 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or takes the > time to even try anything until it's actually released. 3.0.4 had 5 RCs from memory, and so far, 3.1.0 has had one pulled back - seems like they are being useful?

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Tony Chemit
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:24:54 -0500 Benson Margulies wrote: > I see no value to RCs around here. To me, RC's are valuable when the > packaging is unstable, and you want a way for people to kick the tires > of 'the package'. Our packaging is stable. +1 > > Any member of the community, even I, can

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Benson Margulies
I see no value to RCs around here. To me, RC's are valuable when the packaging is unstable, and you want a way for people to kick the tires of 'the package'. Our packaging is stable. Any member of the community, even I, can check out the trunk and build the core and try it out. I don't need to wai

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
Hello, I would support Stephen's suggestion and go with a quick 3.1.0 and liked it better to fix-forward and release a 3.1.1 quite soon afterwards. In the end you will get more feedback from a release then from a RC. Regards Mirko On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > If yo

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
I plan to be working on this for the next 8 weeks or so. There will definitely be another release within a couple months. Hopefully in 4-6 weeks. On Nov 25, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > If you are going to help do another release in the next 2 months or so > (barring unforeseen

Re: To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
If you are going to help do another release in the next 2 months or so (barring unforeseen circumstances) my vote is Jenkins tip style, no RCs, early and often. If we are going to resume the snails pace (I hope not) then RCs Thst's my €0.02 -Stephen On Sunday, 25 November 2012, Jason van Zyl wr

To RC or not RC

2012-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
I wish RCs were useful, but I don't believe anyone really looks or takes the time to even try anything until it's actually released. It's not hard to make RCs. So if folks want them, not a problem, I can roll an RC. Anyone have an opinion? Thanks, Jason --