Re: Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-14 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Sorry I was not clear, what I was trying to say is: maven has logging built in, if you need a logfile you can pass the -l switch or re-configure slf4j. It also has some control over the loglevel (-X). Most users dont need it because they (think CI Server) just catch stdout. http://maven.apache.org

Re: Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Sorry I was not clear, what I was trying to say is: maven has logging built in, if you need a logfile you can pass the -l switch or re-configure slf4j. It also has some control over the loglevel (-X). Most users dont need it because they (think CI Server) just catch stdout. http://maven.apache.org

Re: Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-05 Thread Paul Benedict
-X is debug/stack traces, right? That's great when you want a slosh-load of debug information, but that's only useful when you're looking for a problem. There's no recourse when problems oddball conditions occur with -X not enabled. My point is Maven and Maven plugins should be able to log those ab

Re: Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Am Mon, 5 May 2014 14:17:50 -0500 schrieb Paul Benedict : > What should be logged? Warnings. I actually would propose exceptions > too because them on the screen only help if you have "logging" like a > Hudson instance to view them. Uh, what is wrong with mvn -X -l? Gruss Bernd

Re: Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-05 Thread Paul Benedict
In the instance of MNG-5256, the log file could dump the values that go into calculating a negative build time. I think that would be very insightful to trace the root cause. What should be logged? Warnings. I actually would propose exceptions too because them on the screen only help if you have "

Re: Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-05 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2014-05-05 16:20, schrieb Paul Benedict: One thing that I like about Eclipse is that it contains a log file to capture the unexpected warning or error. These warnings or errors may not kill the program but at least I can peer inside to see what's going on. With regard to MNG-5626, it makes me

Thoughts on MNG-5626 and the need for a log file

2014-05-05 Thread Paul Benedict
One thing that I like about Eclipse is that it contains a log file to capture the unexpected warning or error. These warnings or errors may not kill the program but at least I can peer inside to see what's going on. With regard to MNG-5626, it makes me wonder should Maven have a default logging lo