Vscode too but not idea nlr netbeans, this is where we should agree and
request enhancement if we want to enable new model versions without
awaiting integrations coming after releases - so too late for adoption, the
egg or chicken pb.
Le dim. 2 oct. 2022 à 16:58, Hannes Wellmann a
écrit :
>
> >
> Options I see is to either do the uodate since IDE are open source but it
> requires more man power OR provide a language server and let IDE do their
> integration with it, this option can need some discussion with
> idea/netbeans/eclipse maven integrators but sounds like a good compromise
> fo
.S. Just as a reminder: Pretty much all of this is implemented already
> and also rebased onto the latest Maven and Maven Resolver master branches.
> You can find the URLs to all repositories (Maven, Maven Resolver and some
> examples) in my previous mails.
>
> __
esolver master branches. You can
find the URLs to all repositories (Maven, Maven Resolver and some examples) in
my previous mails.
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From: Enno Thieleke
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 8:47 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Fw: Request for Enhancement: Depe
é BOUTEMY
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I forgot: last but not least
we have consistency issues with parent POM and dependencyManagement POM import
downloads when repositories are defined in proj
gt;
> > ________
> > From: Enno Thieleke
> > Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:54 AM
> > To: Maven Developers List
> > Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > concerning the
gt; Kind regards
> Enno
>
>
> From: Enno Thieleke
> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:54 AM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
>
> Hi,
>
> concerning the request to change the override XML element
on again about what I wrote a couple of weeks ago?
>
> Kind regards
> Enno
>
>
> From: Enno Thieleke
> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:54 AM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
>
&
Enno Thieleke
Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi,
concerning the request to change the override XML element to a fully-fledged
dependency, thus removing the need for accompanying managed dependencies..
ndency management.
Please let me know what you think.
Kind regards
Enno
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 2:33 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Le lun. 22 nov. 2021 à 14:15, Enno Thieleke a
écrit :
>
ock form my quick
tests so guess it is not the intent ;).
>
> And yes, overriding the classifier (and extension/type) should be possible
> too. And it already is, but it needs more testing, which I'm working on.
>
👍
>
> Kind regards
> Enno
>
>
ovember 22, 2021 11:00 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi all,
I fear not defining the version is likely a source of big issues and worse
than not having this feature at all since often, when you change the major,
you change totally the depend
en that's fine by me. Regarding your
> > second point, I think the current approach is good and people would have
> to
> > provide strong arguments to convince me of a different approach.
> >
> > Again, thanks for the feedback, it's really appreciated and if
;
> Again, thanks for the feedback, it's really appreciated and if you have
> more, please let me know.
>
> Kind regards,
> Enno
>
>
> From: Delany
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 4:46 AM
> To: Maven Developers List
> S
rom: Delany
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 4:46 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi Enno,
2 things. I'd want to emphasise that the resolution of dependency
management info and the dependency overrides (more like a reactor
management c
s the proposal itself:
> https://github.com/strohmattenverleger/maven/blob/MNG-4530/Dependency-Overrides.md
>
> If you find the time to look, please let me know what you think and what
> you think is missing.
>
> Kind regards
> Enno
>
>
at you think and what you
think is missing.
Kind regards
Enno
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:34 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
A few notes on the proposal:
- Leave a de
d regards
> Enno
>
>
> From: Enno Thieleke
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:59 AM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I'll take this as a "go
nd regards
Enno
From: Enno Thieleke
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:59 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi Michael,
I'll take this as a "go ahead, if it's good we'll accept it".
> Enno
> ____
> From: Michael Osipov
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:01 PM
> To: dev@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
>
> Am 2021-08-25 um 20:51 schrieb Enno Thieleke:
> > Hello again,
>
uot;Maven Developers List"
Verzonden: 26-8-2021 11:59:09
Onderwerp: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi Michael,
I'll take this as a "go ahead, if it's good we'll accept it".
Just a few more questions before I start.
For the issue: Would reopen
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From: Michael Osipov
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:01 PM
To: dev@maven.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Am 2021-08-25 um 20:51 schrieb Enno Thieleke:
> Hello again,
>
> some days have passed and I didn't want to distract you people from
Am 2021-08-25 um 20:51 schrieb Enno Thieleke:
Hello again,
some days have passed and I didn't want to distract you people from releasing
the new version of Maven, but now that it's done, I'm getting back to this
topic.
I'm asking for the opinion of the Maven PMC and committers regarding this
-4530 (requires the
changes I made to maven-resolver)
https://github.com/strohmattenverleger/maven-MNG-4530-example (the parent/root
POM contains an override example)
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:04 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subjec
ust want to know whether this is worth my time or if I can simply
> stop at this point. If this feature has the stuff to make it into Maven,
> then details need to be worked out and I'd be willing to implement most if
> not all of it.
>
What about looking for a simple meta/pom mod
is worth my time or if I can simply stop
at this point. If this feature has the stuff to make it into Maven, then
details need to be worked out and I'd be willing to implement most if not all
of it.
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 3:07 P
pom verbosity only as I
explained.
This is not from where it should be tackled IMHO.
My motivation also comes from the fact that I don't want to repeat myself
> over and over again, which I what must do if I use exclusions.
>
Not using dep mgt and/or packaging=pom modules, just give it a try. It is
clean, maven a
et.
My motivation also comes from the fact that I don't want to repeat myself over
and over again, which I what must do if I use exclusions.
____________
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:35 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
hricht-
Von: Romain Manni-Bucau
Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. August 2021 08:36
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Le sam. 14 août 2021 à 22:21, Enno Thieleke a
écrit :
> Ok, I feel like we're turning in circles here.
>
> If the featu
org/jira/browse/MNG-4530
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-5652
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-1977
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-5652>
>
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:14 PM
fix the POM, that's much less confusing than having
> a
> > project using technology x but declaring to use technology y.
> >
> > The only time I see dependency overwrites as somewhat useful if you want
> > to replace transitive dependencies with fixed minor updates. This is
> >
less confusing than having
> a
> > project using technology x but declaring to use technology y.
> >
> > The only time I see dependency overwrites as somewhat useful if you want
> > to replace transitive dependencies with fixed minor updates. This is
> > however seldomly needed since maven ad
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:08 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Le sam. 14 août 2021 à 16:52, Enno Thieleke a
écrit :
> You are right, the feature is mainly useful for transitive
;less
worse" solution IMHO).
So back to the point it is already doable and built in, you just propose
another grammar IMHO.
> From: Bernd Eckenfels
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 4:31 PM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Request fo
day, August 14, 2021 3:38:53 PM
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi Bernd,
hopefully I understand you correctly: I'd expect the artifact (and its source
and javadoc attachment) to change, nothing more. The source would be left
untouched. I
8:53 PM
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hi Bernd,
hopefully I understand you correctly: I'd expect the artifact (and its source
and javadoc attachment) to change, nothing more. The source would be left
untouched. It is not the respon
2021 2:08 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Le sam. 14 août 2021 à 13:24, Enno Thieleke a
écrit :
> So, you're saying that I can replace artifact coordinates with
> dependencyManagement.dependencies already? I'm not talking about ve
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Would you expect to only replace artifacts or also change the java source and
class files to actually change the used classes? Your cases are no simple
drop-in replace compatibility. Therefore I doubt a maven fea
.
Gruss
Bernd
--
http://bernd.eckenfels.net
Von: Enno Thieleke
Gesendet: Saturday, August 14, 2021 1:24:26 PM
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
So, you're saying that I can replace artifact coordinates
so I dont agree with that
last part and is one of the multiples reasons I think it must not be a core
feature (added to the previous mentionned facts).
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:55 AM
> To: Maven Developers List
>
Resolver. This way the entire user base of Maven would benefit from
it.
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:55 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hmm,
dependencyManagement.dependenc
ph in a way that is transparent to developers and plugins. If done
> right, one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a graph, which
> is clean from the start, and a graph, which has been altered using
> overrides.
>
> Looking forward to your reply.
>
> Kind regards,
___
From: Romain Manni-Bucau
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 2:41 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Request for Enhancement: Dependency Overrides
Hmm, I probably miss a thing but it looks like you just redid
dependencyManagement but duplicating it you created a new issue: how to
overrid
t painful.
>
> In essence, I think global excludes are definitely a good tool to have, I
> just don't think that they are the right tool when it comes to replacing
> dependencies in a concise way.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> Kind regards,
> Enno
nitely a good tool to have, I just
don't think that they are the right tool when it comes to replacing
dependencies in a concise way.
Please let me know what you think.
Kind regards,
Enno
From: Michael Osipov
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 4:31 PM
To:
Am 2021-08-06 um 17:55 schrieb Enno Thieleke:
Hello,
I've been using Maven for 10+ years now. It's great and I still prefer it over similar
tools. Recently I encountered a scenario where it would have been nice to be able to
simply "override" a dependency. For example by specifying _somehow_ t
Hello,
I've been using Maven for 10+ years now. It's great and I still prefer it over
similar tools. Recently I encountered a scenario where it would have been nice
to be able to simply "override" a dependency. For example by specifying
_somehow_ that (in my case) commons-logging should be jcl-
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