Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-17 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le samedi 16 février 2019, 11:38:59 CET Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : > Le 15/02/2019 à 17:34, Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : > > IIUC you don't use the same versions of dependencies (because of > > uniqueness of each lib in Debian [1]) as those used in a "normal > > unconstrained" build from source [2] > > >

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-16 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 15/02/2019 à 17:34, Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : > IIUC you don't use the same versions of dependencies (because of uniqueness > of each lib in Debian [1]) as those used in a "normal unconstrained" build > from source [2] > I don't yet understand the details of Debian build system, if the symlink

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-15 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
not sure we're on the same understanding. I'll try to focus on 2 specific topics Le jeudi 14 février 2019, 22:57:26 CET Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : > > - Are you making clear that you're not using the official Maven > > distribution, e.g. by adjust the info from 'mvn --version'? > > No we aren't, bu

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Robert, Some comments with my Maven package maintainer hat. Le 12/02/2019 à 20:09, Robert Scholte a écrit : > I'm also wondering how you build Maven, since Maven is > being built with Maven. That should be a challenge to also rebuild all > plugins, etc. The maven package is rebuilt with the

Re: Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-14 Thread Michael Osipov
..@lists.debian.org, "Matthias Klose" > > Betreff: Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk > > Jar manifest files carry data like "built-by" and implementation > information: > > https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/packageman.html > &

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-14 Thread Gary Gregory
Jar manifest files carry data like "built-by" and implementation information: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/packageman.html Why not reuse "Implementation-Vendor" or invent a new entry and put "Debian" in there. Maven can display this additional information on "mvn -versio

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-14 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi Robert, Am 12.02.19 um 20:09 schrieb Robert Scholte: [...] > Hi Markus, > > first of all thanks for the insights, it is important for us to know how > Maven is used and in which way we can improve that way-of-work. Hervé is > already working hard on the reproducible builds specs with your team

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-13 Thread Michael Osipov
Am 2019-02-12 um 20:09 schrieb Robert Scholte: On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:34:56 +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: Hello, Dalibor Topic (Oracle) and Robert Scholte (Apache Maven) contacted me and were so kind to agree to make this discussion public, so that others can chime in too. I would like to use

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-12 Thread Robert Scholte
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:34:56 +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: Hello, Dalibor Topic (Oracle) and Robert Scholte (Apache Maven) contacted me and were so kind to agree to make this discussion public, so that others can chime in too. I would like to use the opportunity to answer the initial question