Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 09:00, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2004 20:40, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > Huh? You don't want to share dependencies anywhere? > > No. Just to say that > xerces -> 2.4.0 > avalon-logkit -> 1.2 > jakarta-bcel -> 5.2 > log4j -> 1.2.1 > > and so on. > > > > I wan

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 April 2004 20:40, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Huh? You don't want to share dependencies anywhere? No. Just to say that xerces -> 2.4.0 avalon-logkit -> 1.2 jakarta-bcel -> 5.2 log4j -> 1.2.1 and so on. > > I want to have ONE place, where I can list the versions to use > > for each arti

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 07:57, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2004 02:05, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > To help you could give me a little tree description of your build and > > describe how you would like things shared. > > > I would assume that ideally, you would like to a parent POM in

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 April 2004 20:07, Vincent Massol wrote: > This defeats the goal of centralizing dependency definitions. We find it > better to have: > > &xml-apis; This is really good tip... :o) Niclas -- +-//---+ | http://www.bali.ac | | http://niclas.hedhman.or

RE: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Jörg Schaible
Niclas Hedhman wrote on Monday, April 19, 2004 2:01 PM: > On Monday 19 April 2004 04:11, Jörg Schaible wrote: > >> So my /myproject/build/entities directory contains the project.ent >> and all the files that define the real entities like characters.ent, >> versions.ent, ... >> >> project.ent co

RE: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Vincent Massol
> -Original Message- > From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 April 2004 13:50 > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: XML Catalogs > > > Ok. We understand this pattern, and IMHO it is not applicable at all, > since > you can't h

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 April 2004 04:11, Jörg Schaible wrote: > So my /myproject/build/entities directory contains the project.ent and all > the files that define the real entities like characters.ent, > versions.ent, ... > > project.ent contains the lines: > > %character-entities; > %version-entities; >

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 April 2004 02:05, Jason van Zyl wrote: > To help you could give me a little tree description of your build and > describe how you would like things shared. > I would assume that ideally, you would like to a parent POM in very > top-level directory in order to share as much as possibl

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
> > In each project: > > - a locator.ent file pointing to the dependencies.ent file (using > relative paths): > > "file:../../../Development/dependencies.ent"> %character-entities; > > - in project.xml, reference the required entity. > > Hope it helps, > -Vincent &g

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Sunday 18 April 2004 23:39, Jason van Zyl wrote: > >> You pretty gave no explanation as to why catalogs would be a good thing >> other than saying: > > We are trying (@Avalon) the hardest to centralize the versioning of our > 70+ versioned artifacts, their cross-depend

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:35, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2004 01:27, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > so if the geronimo build is made to work then I > > think Avalon will have a working model from which to copy. > > Ok... that, I guess, is something in the near future. To help you could

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Tomasz Pik
bob mcwhirter wrote: Ah, catalogs are actually a wonderful thing. They translate identifiers to something system-specific, typically. They are mircales in SGML and XML has been knocked for not having them previously. Has the w3c done a catalog spec? OASIS: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/do

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:35, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2004 01:27, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > > We are trying (@Avalon) the hardest to centralize the versioning of our > > > 70+ versioned artifacts, their cross-dependencies and all the external > > > dependencies that are involved

RE: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Vincent Massol
nal Message- > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 April 2004 19:27 > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: XML Catalogs > > On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 12:23, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > On Sunday 18 April 2004 23:39, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > &g

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread bob mcwhirter
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:19, bob mcwhirter wrote: > > Ah, catalogs are actually a wonderful thing. > > Maybe so, but I still don't think we need them and if the xpp3 parser > doesn't support them then we can't use them because I'm not using xerces > just

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 April 2004 01:27, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > We are trying (@Avalon) the hardest to centralize the versioning of our > > 70+ versioned artifacts, their cross-dependencies and all the external > > dependencies that are involved. > > I believe the fellow who manages development said he ha

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 13:19, bob mcwhirter wrote: > Ah, catalogs are actually a wonderful thing. Maybe so, but I still don't think we need them and if the xpp3 parser doesn't support them then we can't use them because I'm not using xerces just to get catalog support. If they are supported by th

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 12:23, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Sunday 18 April 2004 23:39, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > You pretty gave no explanation as to why catalogs would be a good thing > > other than saying: > > We are trying (@Avalon) the hardest to centralize the versioning of our 70+ > versione

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 April 2004 01:19, bob mcwhirter wrote: > Has the w3c done a catalog spec? Not sure, but I think they either have, or are in the process of doing it... Niclas -- +-//---+ | http://www.bali.ac | | http://niclas.hedhman.org | +--//-

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread bob mcwhirter
Ah, catalogs are actually a wonderful thing. They translate identifiers to something system-specific, typically. They are mircales in SGML and XML has been knocked for not having them previously. Has the w3c done a catalog spec? -bob On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sun

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sunday 18 April 2004 23:39, Jason van Zyl wrote: > You pretty gave no explanation as to why catalogs would be a good thing > other than saying: We are trying (@Avalon) the hardest to centralize the versioning of our 70+ versioned artifacts, their cross-dependencies and all the external depen

Re: XML Catalogs

2004-04-18 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 10:37, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Hi, > > Since noone reacted on my quest for XML Catalog support in Maven, I am > patching Maven myself to handle it. Probably not the most rational approach. If none of the developers responded it more likely means none of us are interested, w