Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-24 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Chris Graham wrote: >> I can imagine that many of the Maven-interoperability issues that ivy >> had/has (I've not been near it for some years) are attributable to the lack >> of a usable specification of repository layouts, operational semantics, etc. > > I think t

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chris Graham
> I can imagine that many of the Maven-interoperability issues that ivy had/has > (I've not been near it for some years) are attributable to the lack of a > usable specification of repository layouts, operational semantics, etc. I think that you've found the real issue there. It's the same one a

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > On 12-02-23 04:37 AM, Chas Emerick wrote: >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: >> >>> Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. >> Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland >> tool conventio

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Manfred Moser
s Emerick [mailto:c...@cemerick.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Ve

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Manfred Moser
On 12-02-23 04:37 AM, Chas Emerick wrote: On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland tool convention, and not a fundamental characteristic of the 'deploy' operation.

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
Yeah, I'll post over there shortly. However, while Aether is the now-canonical implementation of these operations, many other tools exist (and will exist) that create, update, and access Apache Maven repository data. It seems like having well-defined semantics for such things separate from any

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Vincent Latombe
l Message- > >> From: Chas Emerick [mailto:c...@cemerick.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM > >> To: Maven Developers List > >> Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy > >> operations > >> > &

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
think you mean something > else when you say "deploy operation". > >> -Original Message- >> From: Chas Emerick [mailto:c...@cemerick.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM >> To: Maven Developers List >> Subject: Re: Functional distincti

RE: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
ailto:c...@cemerick.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy > operations > > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: > > > Remember that 'deploy'

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: > Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland tool convention, and not a fundamental characteristic of the 'deploy' operation. However, even Aether leaves some resolver

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Graham
Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. -Chris On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > >> On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: >>> I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify >>> some

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: >> I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify >> some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is >> generally applicable for all Maven tools…bu

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Manfred Moser
On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is generally applicable for all Maven tools…but let me know if I should simply bounce to the Aether ML. In