Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/10/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I understand it, this one has been in a grey area for some time. Firstly, to be clear, there's nothing legally wrong with what it's doing - this is purely protecting users from getting code that is not AL unsuspectingly. Since the use of ch

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/10/07, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/9/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm no lawyer, but I was under the impression that with Java muck, > that importing and referencing [L]GPL classes in non-[L]GPL code was > not legit. Or is that just for GPL? just GPL A

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Ralph Goers
Actually, that depends on who you ask. If you read the FSF site you'd get the impression it is not. JBoss says it is. What is most important is that according to what I've seen on Apache legal-discuss the project can't have direct dependencies on LGPL'd software. It would make a lot of sense

RE: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Brian E. Fox
List Subject: Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL As I understand it, this one has been in a grey area for some time. Firstly, to be clear, there's nothing legally wrong with what it's doing - this is purely protecting users from getting code that is not AL unsuspectingly.

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Carlos Sanchez
On 4/9/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm no lawyer, but I was under the impression that with Java muck, that importing and referencing [L]GPL classes in non-[L]GPL code was not legit. Or is that just for GPL? just GPL -

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jason Dillon
On Apr 9, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Brett Porter wrote: As I understand it, this one has been in a grey area for some time. Firstly, to be clear, there's nothing legally wrong with what it's doing - this is purely protecting users from getting code that is not AL unsuspectingly. Since the use of

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Brett Porter
As I understand it, this one has been in a grey area for some time. Firstly, to be clear, there's nothing legally wrong with what it's doing - this is purely protecting users from getting code that is not AL unsuspectingly. Since the use of checkstyle is optional, and because we don't 'di

RE: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Brian E. Fox
In a pom I agree, but from the CLI you can run checkstyle:check. -Original Message- From: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Dillon Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:36 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL On Apr 9

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jason Dillon
On Apr 9, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Jerome Lacoste wrote: On 4/9/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I personally have no love for GPL/LGPL, why such hate ? :) I didn't say hate :-P I just don't have a love for it... most because its not friggen compatible with the ASL :-P I wish it was

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jason Dillon
On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Brian E. Fox wrote: whole plugin will cause total havoc on existing builds. (As would purging old versions of it) It's the "optional" part that is important. Nothing from Apache should silently pull in LGPL dependencies. Moving the plugin to Codehaus is probably

RE: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Brian E. Fox
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:37 AM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL > > On 4/9/07, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At the end of the link quoted below: > > > a bridging api (which can resi

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Carlos Sanchez
bject: Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL On 4/9/07, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the end of the link quoted below: > > a bridging api (which can reside within the same project - so > > can > be hosted at apache) >will be used to access

RE: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Brian E. Fox
endy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:37 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL On 4/9/07, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the end of the link quoted below: > > a bridging api (which can resid

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/9/07, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At the end of the link quoted below: > a bridging api (which can reside within the same project - so can be hosted at apache) >will be used to access these LGPL stuff to clearly show its optional behaviour This is probably the simplest thin

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/9/07, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At the end of the link quoted below: > a bridging api (which can reside within the same project - so can be hosted at apache) >will be used to access these LGPL stuff to clearly show its optional behaviour This is probably the simplest thin

RE: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Brian E. Fox
ct: Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL On 4/9/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, I was just looking around at Checkstyle and noticed that it is > licensed as LGPL. Is this legit? I was under the impression that > Apache soft ware could not directl

Re: Checkstyle, maven-checkstyle-plugin and LGPL

2007-04-09 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/9/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, I was just looking around at Checkstyle and noticed that it is licensed as LGPL. Is this legit? I was under the impression that Apache soft ware could not directly use any LGPL or GPL licenses software... which the maven-checkstyle-plugin