Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

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Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-11-02 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
I like failsafe as well and in our jenkins instances we do not use failsafe:verify. Instead the build will go red for a broken surefire test but only yellow for a broken IT. Adding more plugins into to default lifecycle slows down execution as well and for some projects it is just not needed. Regar

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Andreas Gudian
2014-10-28 17:54 GMT+01:00 Benson Margulies : > Personally, I wonder why we don't merge them. > > Failsafe adds some lifestyle phase bindings and then changes some > defaults. Otherwise, it's a giant anti-DRY. Why not expand surefire to > have the extra executions with shifted defaults for things

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, i'm completely against merging maven-failsafe-plugin into the life cycle... Running maven-failsafe-plugin within integration-test phase is one solution...but sometimes you have other things to do for integration tests In pre-integration-test phase it's often the case to start an app

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
I wrote it before I had my apache commit bit. there are pluses and minuses to combining them. For instance it is harder to configure different defaults for goals when they are the same plugin. But in any case, for either path changing the bindings to make them easier to use will still require ad

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Benedict
If my memory serves me right, the failsafe plugin was conceived/developed by a third party -- perhaps codehaus. Then it was later adapted by Apache. I think this is maybe why the two haven't been merged (yet). Cheers, Paul On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Jeff Jensen < jeffjen...@upstairstechno

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Jeff Jensen
> > Integrating Failsafe in the same way as Surefire would be great for a lot > of people I think. I agree! Personally, I wonder why we don't merge them. I've wondered the same thing... is there a technical reason why it "won't" or is difficult to make work? On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Personally, I wonder why we don't merge them. Failsafe adds some lifestyle phase bindings and then changes some defaults. Otherwise, it's a giant anti-DRY. Why not expand surefire to have the extra executions with shifted defaults for things like test class names? On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:50 A

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Oliver B. Fischer
@Paul: Yes I think so or we find a way more convenient in this moment. @all: I think this shows perfectly why Failsafe should be integrated as Surefire already is. Oliver Am 28.10.14 16:02, schrieb Paul Benedict: Thanks. Now I know when to use this. For my situation, which is integration tes

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Benedict
Thanks. Now I know when to use this. For my situation, which is integration testing against an existing database, I don't need to setup an environment; this explains why I never needed to use the plugin. There are other cases the plugin will be valuable, but I wonder if this is why most others stic

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Anders Hammar
The answer is on the index page of the failsafe plugin [1]. "If you use the Surefire Plugin for running tests..." /Anders [1] http://maven.apache.org/surefire/maven-failsafe-plugin/ On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > I have always used surefire for integration tests with a

Re: Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I have always used surefire for integration tests with a Maven profile (to activate them on demand since they are time consuming). What benefit am I missing not using failsafe? Cheers, Paul On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Oliver B. Fischer wrote: > Hi, > > I see a lot of people using *Surefir

Proposal: Ease the usage of Failsafe

2014-10-28 Thread Oliver B. Fischer
Hi, I see a lot of people using *Surefire for intergation tests instead of Failsafe*. I think the reason for this is that *Failsafe* is from my perspective is *not integrated* in Maven *as is possible*. While unittest (*Test.java) are executed if we place them in |src/test/java| for integrat