Re: Nope, 3.5 isn't dead

2024-04-13 Thread Mateusz Gajewski
Hey Elliotte, If the project you are referring to is the one that I'm thinking about, the project I'm working on was in the same situation a couple of years back. In the last 4 years, we've spent a significant amount of time and resources to migrate Trino (https://github.com/trinodb/trino) from T

Re: Nope, 3.5 isn't dead

2024-04-13 Thread Matthias Bünger
Hey all, when I gave my talk about Maven 4 some days ago at the Javaland conference I started with a quick "what Maven version do you use" question and there were also several hands who use 3.6 and 3.3 (!). I hope I could convince them to upgrade - so it's the same with Java versions: There are a

Re: Nope, 3.5 isn't dead

2024-04-13 Thread Jorge Solórzano
Hi Elliotte, You mentioned that you are trying to upgrade but it seems the problem is not updating Maven itself, but updating the Docker images and/or CI infrastructure, that doesn't look like an issue with Maven, and in any case, for a legacy project that doesn't care to maintain or update Maven,

Re: Nope, 3.5 isn't dead

2024-04-13 Thread Richard Eckart de Castilho
Hi, > On 13. Apr 2024, at 14:05, Slawomir Jaranowski wrote: > > Such organizations must have an awareness that support for their product > can be impossible - especially for free. > So it looks like large tech companies don't want to pay for maintenance and > try to require it from an Open Sourc

Re: Nope, 3.5 isn't dead

2024-04-13 Thread Slawomir Jaranowski
Hi, I am afraid that in such legacy projects not only Maven version will be a problem. Eg. Most newer versions of popular libraries were switched to JDK 1.8 as minimum or even higher ... and so on. Simply if an organization doesn't have time, resources to regularly maintain their projects, the b

Nope, 3.5 isn't dead

2024-04-13 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
Maybe it should be, but I wanted to drop a note that about a month after December's decision to require Maven 3.6.3, I shifted onto an open source project that's been around for 10+ years, is actively backed by two large tech companies, and still depends on Maven 3.5.x in the continuous integration