Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Andreas Sewe
Robert Scholte wrote: > Well, where is the need for additional namespaces and how they be handled? > The reader has a strict mode, should it fail or ignore unknown tags? > I am aware of one request: adding a namespace on plugins configuration (to > validate its content), however the configuration-

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 2:11 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > There are current issues in our pom.xml parsing, particularly around > > namespaces, that aren't going to be resolved until we get rid of or > > fix Modello, and possibly that's going to require fixing XPP3. I don't > > know. However the X

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Robert Scholte
Well, where is the need for additional namespaces and how they be handled? The reader has a strict mode, should it fail or ignore unknown tags? I am aware of one request: adding a namespace on plugins configuration (to validate its content), however the configuration-element is part of the maven

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Le lun. 7 juin 2021 à 15:37, Elliotte Rusty Harold a écrit : > On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 1:21 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > > > The generated xml readers are used to actually read the pom. That's an > > important part :-) > > I spent quite some time profiling those and XPP3 is really fast, so I'd

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 1:21 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > The generated xml readers are used to actually read the pom. That's an > important part :-) > I spent quite some time profiling those and XPP3 is really fast, so I'd > really like to avoid using JAXB for that. > > I agree with not using J

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Le lun. 7 juin 2021 à 14:49, Elliotte Rusty Harold a écrit : > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 6:53 PM Hervé BOUTEMY > wrote: > > > > I don't get how Modello got in your way on these issues: please explain > > And it works perfectly on Eclipse: there is a m2e extension for Modello > that > > does the job

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-07 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 6:53 PM Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: > > I don't get how Modello got in your way on these issues: please explain > And it works perfectly on Eclipse: there is a m2e extension for Modello that > does the job. I assume you're referring to the unsigned, pre-1.0 extensions that corpora

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-03 Thread Manfred Moser
by hand, but generate it. And any generating tool will require > read that famous manual. > > Robert > On 2-6-2021 14:38:43, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: &g

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
gt; Von: Gary Gregory [mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 14:38 > > An: Maven Developers List > > Betreff: Re: Moving away from Modello > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann > > wrote: > > > > > > On We

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-03 Thread Gary Gregory
ch, 2. Juni 2021 14:38 > An: Maven Developers List > Betreff: Re: Moving away from Modello > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold > wrote: > > > > > What do folks think abo

AW: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-03 Thread Markus Karg
. -Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gary Gregory [mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 14:38 An: Maven Developers List Betreff: Re: Moving away from Modello On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
21 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold < > elh...@ibiblio.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where > > > >

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Benjamin Marwell
n Wiedmann > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold > > > wrote: > > > > > > > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where > > > > feasible to simplify the build? Does anyone fi

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 2:38 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold > > wrote: > > > > > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Robert Scholte
sty Harold wrote: > > > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where > > feasible to simplify the build? Does anyone find Modello a net > > positive, especially in longterm maintenance, not just in initial code > > generation? > > To me, it sounds feas

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
d to break more frequently than pure Java code or Maven > itself. The build is less fragile without it. > > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where > feasible to simplify the build? Does anyone find Modello a net > positive, especially in longterm m

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Gary Gregory
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:30 AM Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold > wrote: > > > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where > > feasible to simplify the build? Does anyone find Modello a net > > po

Re: Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where > feasible to simplify the build? Does anyone find Modello a net > positive, especially in longterm maintenance, not just in initial code > generation? To m

Moving away from Modello

2021-06-02 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
a hosting site going dark, etc. Tools of this nature tend to break more frequently than pure Java code or Maven itself. The build is less fragile without it. What do folks think about slowly moving away from Modello where feasible to simplify the build? Does anyone find Modello a net positiv