Maven Developer Hangout

2015-01-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi! Here's the link with tomorrow's Maven Developer Hangout and the agenda: https://plus.google.com/events/cm0nnn4342ttnk0i9k4pvml3670 Agenda: 1) Henning Schmiedehausen will be talking about the Basepom project, and a recent change to the Maven Dependency Plugin. Henning worked with

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-11-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
Here's the link for this week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c7v61ah88ifc9e0vh6hnum87vro There are a couple things I plan to talk about: - demo of a new lifecycle profiling and visualization tool i've been working on - discussion of the history of Maven Central and how I'd like to see the c

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-10-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
Link for this week's hangout: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/cgf1lmf8br4gqj8ohi4712n4mf8 4PM EDT on Thursday Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-10-20 Thread Jason van Zyl
Link to this weeks Maven Developer Hangout: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cuqgqo7nloc2toagctvvl0d9lok Thursday, October 23rd @ 4PM ET Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-10-14 Thread Jason van Zyl
Here's the link for this week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/cai2pfs4evm51cpivc6peeeoir0 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io ---

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-09-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
Here's the link for this week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/cj2viqoundr31t42n57tp871qm8 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io ---

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-09-17 Thread Jason van Zyl
Link for tomorrow: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/cv347373ua8k4caqvhdui0ldi5o Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io ---

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-09-08 Thread Jason van Zyl
Link for this week's hangout: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/cqotav324ho95ceebadk8reg968 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-09-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
This weeks link: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/ckot923l5os14kh73e8ppv2o4j8 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io -

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-08-18 Thread Jason van Zyl
Link for this week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/cpcag5n5d1e0v6f1d94ip7308j4 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io --

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-08-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
4pm On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > What's the time in Boston on Thursday? (May be able to join if work > meetings have a window) > > > On 11 August 2014 21:25, Jason van Zyl wrote: > >> Link for this week: >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/ck003ejvdipqp5a9drdaj2d

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-08-11 Thread Stephen Connolly
What's the time in Boston on Thursday? (May be able to join if work meetings have a window) On 11 August 2014 21:25, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Link for this week: > https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/ck003ejvdipqp5a9drdaj2d4sb4 > > Thanks, > > Jason > >

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-08-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
Link for this week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/ck003ejvdipqp5a9drdaj2d4sb4 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io --

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-08-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
2014 23:54:44 jieryn a écrit : >>>> Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone >>>> can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. >>> >>> Notice that it's true: anybody can do a Maven Developer Hangout, the same >>> wa

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-08-05 Thread William Ferguson
Hervé > > Le vendredi 25 juillet 2014 09:10:09 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : > > Le jeudi 24 juillet 2014 23:54:44 jieryn a écrit : > > > Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone > > > can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. > > > >

Re: Maven Developer Hangout Summary (2014-07-31)

2014-08-01 Thread Jeff Jensen
Awesome! Thank you very much for the summary. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Here's a short summary of yesterdays discussion: > > --- > > Manfred Moser > > 1) Alternative verifier use in maven-android-plugin for testing. Igor > created an alternative verifier for use in

Maven Developer Hangout Summary (2014-07-31)

2014-08-01 Thread Jason van Zyl
Here's a short summary of yesterdays discussion: --- Manfred Moser 1) Alternative verifier use in maven-android-plugin for testing. Igor created an alternative verifier for use inside of M2E for integration testing that allows an integration test to be run from within Eclipse without having to

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
ing these, but recently it seems anyone > > can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. > > Notice that it's true: anybody can do a Maven Developer Hangout, the same > way anybody can do a Maven Developer Talk in a place or conference, or a > Maven Developer Discussion at a Coffe

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le jeudi 24 juillet 2014 23:54:44 jieryn a écrit : > Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone > can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. Notice that it's true: anybody can do a Maven Developer Hangout, the same way anybody can do a Maven Developer Talk in

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
based on who is involved in said discussion. > > Mark > > > On 25 Jul 2014, at 15:54, jieryn wrote: > >> Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone >> can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. >> >> I am confused about this most

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
What do you mean "but recently it seems anyone can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout" ? There has only been the one series of hangouts. Where anyone can talk about any topic related to Maven, which is what has transpired thus far. The update Manfred posted was all about Maven so I&

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
Yes, they are related to Maven. I do not recall a discussion we've had about anything not Maven related. On Jul 24, 2014, at 11:50 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > Question about these hangouts... are they about anything related to Maven? > I thought these were to focus on 4.0 enhancements. Perhaps

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Manfred Moser
24.07.2014 20:54: > Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone > can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. > > I am confused about this most recent update. > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: >> Question about these hangouts...

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Mark Derricutt
based on who is involved in said discussion. Mark On 25 Jul 2014, at 15:54, jieryn wrote: Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. I am confused about this most recent update. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Paul

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread jieryn
Agree! I thought I saw Jason doing these, but recently it seems anyone can say it is a Maven Developer Hangout. I am confused about this most recent update. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > Question about these hangouts... are they about anything related to Maven?

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Paul Benedict
Question about these hangouts... are they about anything related to Maven? I thought these were to focus on 4.0 enhancements. Perhaps I misunderstood; it looks this week's topics were mostly private company infrastructure stuff. Cheers, Paul On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Manfred Moser wrote

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, unfortunately i couldn't make it and Manfred yes i'm enjoining a really good sunset at north sea at the end of my vacation...but i took the recorded one... On 7/24/14 11:35 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: Hi all! We had another interesting and productive developer hangout today. The followin

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2014 00:13:48 Robert Scholte a écrit : > Hi, > > sorry I couldn't make it today, though I've listened to the livestream. > > One extra remark regarding the checkstyle enforcements: when I mentioned > the pre-commit-hook my idea was *not* to let that apply checkstyle, but >

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Wiki page for referencing all the hangouts and summaries/discussions started [1] Feel free to improve Regards, Hervé [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Maven+Development+Hangout Le jeudi 24 juillet 2014 23:35:46 Manfred Moser a écrit : > Hi all! > > We had another interesti

Re: Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Robert Scholte
Hi, sorry I couldn't make it today, though I've listened to the livestream. One extra remark regarding the checkstyle enforcements: when I mentioned the pre-commit-hook my idea was *not* to let that apply checkstyle, but that it doesn't accept a commit if it doesn't follow the convention. Th

Maven Developer Hangout - 2014-07-24

2014-07-24 Thread Manfred Moser
Hi all! We had another interesting and productive developer hangout today. The following topics were discussed and raised: - new release of progressive-organization-pom available https://github.com/simpligility/progressive-organization-pom - new release of Android Maven Plugin 3.9.0-rc.3 http

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-24 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le jeudi 24 juillet 2014 09:20:40 Paul Benedict a écrit : > I know this was brought up before. I agree with whoever said this: the > hangout videos are like the Apache conference and it's not easy to get a > summary. Any thoughts to someone volunteering as a secretary and creating > bullet-point li

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-24 Thread Manfred Moser
We will definitely run the event. I got at least 3 topics to cover. manfred Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote on 24.07.2014 08:55: > Hi, > > I would like to attend... > > Kind regards > Karl-Heinz > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-24 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, I would like to attend... Kind regards Karl-Heinz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-24 Thread Paul Benedict
I know this was brought up before. I agree with whoever said this: the hangout videos are like the Apache conference and it's not easy to get a summary. Any thoughts to someone volunteering as a secretary and creating bullet-point lists on the wiki? I just want to know what was generally discussed

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
I can't make the hangout today, but Emily will start it as per usual and folks can talk about whatever they wish. Someone else can run the discussion. I think it's good to always have the forum every week and if there's nothing to talk about people can leave. Thanks, Jason ---

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Scholte
Hi during the hangout we discussed about plugins depending on configuration of another plugin, or in other words: sharing configuration. For instance: The values for http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-compiler-plugin/compile-mojo.html#source and http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-com

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-08 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
and this is even worse when an artifact has been downloaded as part of a plugin used during build: an artifact used by a plugin should not be available as a build dependency so as explained in compatibility notes [1], this not really about fearing different artifacts from multiples repos, but "

RE: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Martin Gainty
sitory (presumably at repo http://dist.codehaus.org) codehaus Codehaus Release Repo http://dist.codehaus.org/ org.apache.maven.*? Martin- > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:35:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: Maven Developer Hangout > From: pbened...@apache.org > To: de

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Martin Todorov
Hi, @Paul: This would also have downsides like having to bind yourself to a process where you need to download the remote repository's index at least once. These are usually not too small... If I recall correctly, Maven Central's index was something like 100 MB in .gz. (I'm talking off the top of

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Paul Benedict
I agree with anyone/everyone who says we should get rid of the idea of a local repository. It should just be looked at as a local "remote" repo with some default intermediary repository manager built-in to Maven. Jason, is that what you're referring to? Cheers, Paul On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:31

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
Yup, this is essentially what routing rules are in Nexus. Would likely make sense to move this logic into Maven to speed up lookups. I also think trying to have each dependency mark where it comes from as cumbersome. On Jul 7, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > > Personally, I’ve always

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Martin Todorov
Hi, +1 for Daniel Kulp's idea. Furthermore, I have the feeling that adding the option of per artifact is bound to lead to headaches. On the other hand, if you could specify groupId includes/excludes for repositories, things could be much better in terms of resolution times. I frankly think that

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Daniel Kulp
Personally, I’ve always wondered if the entries should have an and tags to say this repository should only be searched for these artifacts (like org.apache.*:*). Should help speed the builds by not looking at every repository for every artifact when we know they are in central. Dan On J

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
Here's the link for this week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/113247990055413254822/events/c0kc3ecm0sndjj8evs7i1ijnk0g I'll have a follow up on the POM Evolved proposal and I'd like to talk about how to test all our plugins in preparation against the latest version of Maven so we can start seein

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-07 Thread Igor Fedorenko
On 2014-07-07, 1:56, Mark Derricutt wrote: That would in part align things with Aether's somewhat annoying/retarded behaviour of saying "oh I see com.acme:special tool:1.0-alpha-1" but it came from repo-1, not repo-2 - so "suck it up - I can't resolve this.". I can understand the idea behind t

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-06 Thread Olivier Lamy
What about a per groupId repo routing in settings.xml I believe John started something. As it no pom change. -- Olivier On Jul 5, 2014 2:57 AM, "Robert Scholte" wrote: > In addition to our hangout session: isn't it weird that for a dependency > Maven can go over all the repositories, even though

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-06 Thread Mark Derricutt
If we did that - would it be to good to provide a basic/minimal "Maven Repository Manager Daemon" as a standard part of Maven. Eliminate the localRepo entirely ( something like this would actually be useful in solving some cross-repository, non-multimodule-build integration issues I'm trying t

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-06 Thread Mark Derricutt
That would in part align things with Aether's somewhat annoying/retarded behaviour of saying "oh I see com.acme:special tool:1.0-alpha-1" but it came from repo-1, not repo-2 - so "suck it up - I can't resolve this.". I can understand the idea behind this - two artefacts from two different repo

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-05 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
hint > > beside > > the path, so it cannot tinker a lot about maven expectations, this should > > be part of richer mrm protocol. > > > > thanks (phone), > > ~t~ > > > > On Jul 5, 2014 2:17 AM, "Martin Gainty" wrote: > >> >

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-05 Thread Robert Scholte
g matters. Also, currently nx does not receive any extra hint beside the path, so it cannot tinker a lot about maven expectations, this should be part of richer mrm protocol. thanks (phone), ~t~ On Jul 5, 2014 2:17 AM, "Martin Gainty" wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:31:35 -0500 &g

RE: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-05 Thread Tamás Cservenák
l. thanks (phone), ~t~ On Jul 5, 2014 2:17 AM, "Martin Gainty" wrote: > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:31:35 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Maven Developer Hangout > > From: pbened...@apache.org > > To: dev@maven.apache.org > > > > The use of even with a

RE: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Martin Gainty
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:31:35 -0500 > Subject: Re: Maven Developer Hangout > From: pbened...@apache.org > To: dev@maven.apache.org > > The use of even with a symbolic id assumes there's only one > canonical location for the artifact. I don't think that'

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Dan Tran
Removing Settings' mirror? we use it exclusively at work where we maintain a customize maven distribution with maven's conf/settings.xml has the mirror pointing to internal repository. I would be very much appreciated with Maven team can point me to a reference of this discussion that make Mirror

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Benedict
The use of even with a symbolic id assumes there's only one canonical location for the artifact. I don't think that's true and would never want to be the end-user who has to manage those symbolic ids. I still advocate removing this tag. I think it's the job of the intermediary (like Nexus) to writ

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Robert Scholte
I fully agree on the SHA1 check and the repo manager protocol, but as long as we need the in the pom.xml, the repositoryId can help to optimize the searchpath for the artifacts. That would make the pom responsible for mapping dependency to the original repositoryUrl and the repository mana

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
If you consider the identity of the artifact to be its SHA1, theoretically it doesn't matter where it comes from. This is not to say that's optimal to go looking everywhere for an artifact. How this is constrained in Nexus is through routing rules where Nexus knows only to look for given groupId

RE: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Martin Gainty
Many is the time I wonder where did that dependency come from? I see the addition of a repositoryId attribute as an "essential feature" for aufgeregt sein auditing goal by maven-audit-plugin Good Idea Robert! +1 Martin _ > To: dev@maven.apache.org > Subject: Re: Maven D

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-04 Thread Robert Scholte
In addition to our hangout session: isn't it weird that for a dependency Maven can go over all the repositories, even though when an extra repository is added to the pom.xml, the developer knows exactly which dependencies should make use of that repository. To me it would make sense if you

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-03 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 3 Jul 2014, at 20:45, Stephen Connolly wrote: I don't think I can make today's hangout... There is a limit to the amount I missed most of it as well - over slept, then stuck in torrential rain slow traffic. Then grr CPU fan made my mic all fuzzy - stupid hangouts ;p Good discussion tho

RE: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-03 Thread Martin Gainty
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:45:22 +0100 > Subject: Re: Maven Developer Hangout > From: stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com > To: dev@maven.apache.org > > On 2 July 2014 19:25, Robert Scholte wrote: > > > Sure, I can fill some time with my proposal.[1] > > Anoth

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 2 July 2014 19:25, Robert Scholte wrote: > Sure, I can fill some time with my proposal.[1] > Another thing that comes to my mind is Stephens proposal on "supplies > concept"[2] > I don't think I can make today's hangout... There is a limit to the amount of "after 5pm" IT related activities pe

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-02 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 3 Jul 2014, at 6:25, Robert Scholte wrote: This is probably more than enough for tomorrow. A discussion on a merits and flaws of (when combined with mirrors) is also warranted after some previous discussion on the list. Mark -

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-02 Thread Robert Scholte
Sure, I can fill some time with my proposal.[1] Another thing that comes to my mind is Stephens proposal on "supplies concept"[2] And an interesting talk would be about the proposal "Removing ability for plugins to dynamically inject dependencies"[3]. For most cases I can think of a solution

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-07-02 Thread Jason van Zyl
The hangout is the same time as last week: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c5dc2fimb4mau0anec7i1nde500 I figure we'll just always schedule it even if few or no one shows up. Just a standing meeting to discuss anything. Robert, maybe you would like to talk about your lifecycle proposal? We c

Re: Maven Developer Hangout

2014-06-23 Thread Mark Derricutt
Same time? I guess this will drive me to get out of bed and in the office early :) On 24 Jun 2014, at 5:28, Jason van Zyl wrote: Here's the link for the developer hangout this week. Hopefully we can continue the conversation about the evolution of the POM: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/

Maven Developer Hangout

2014-06-23 Thread Jason van Zyl
Here's the link for the developer hangout this week. Hopefully we can continue the conversation about the evolution of the POM: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c1hfpekl285un5rkmgt10iijpf0 We switched the day to Thursday based on feedback. Thanks, Jason -