Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-10 Thread Kenney Westerhof
Brian E. Fox wrote: So I propose: - if -DdownloadSources is specified, download sources and fallback to javadoc, just as it is now - if -DdownloadJavaDoc is specified, download javadoc (possibly fallback to sources) - if both are specified, download both. And: - don't make this a def

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-10 Thread Brian E. Fox
>So I propose: >- if -DdownloadSources is specified, download sources and fallback to javadoc, >just as it is now >- if -DdownloadJavaDoc is specified, download javadoc (possibly fallback to >sources) >- if both are specified, download both. >And: >- don't make this a default; the default beh

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-10 Thread Kenney Westerhof
Ok, if you really need both sources and javadoc then that should be possible. I never heard of the shift-f2 but indeed it doesn't work here. I either use the tooltip when I hover over an element and possibly f2 for focus, or open the javadoc view which displays the javadoc as soon as I select any

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Mark Hobson
On 05/07/07, Cabasson Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I kinda changed the suject of the discussion. The matter here is whether the eclipse-plugin should be able to download "sources AND javadoc" or only (as is the cas right now) "sources, and only javadoc as a fallback if sources are mi

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Cabasson Denis
De : Jochen Wiedmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:42 AM > À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources > by default within Maven projects > > On 7/5/07, Cabasson Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Cabasson Denis
De : Jochen Wiedmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:42 AM > À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources > by default within Maven projects > > On 7/5/07, Cabasson Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-05 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/5/07, Cabasson Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Basically, I tend to agree with you Kenney. But I have users who love to use Shift+F2 within eclipse (which opens a browser like window with the view of the javadoc in eclipse), and I don't really see why those users should be denied to use

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Cabasson Denis
age d'origine- > De : Kenney Westerhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:05 PM > À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources > by default within Maven projects > > > > Cabasson Denis wrote

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Kenney Westerhof
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:08 PM À : Maven Developers List Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects On 03/07/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Geoffrey De Smet
Downloading the non-available sources should not be slow: Just cache in the repository (not in target which get cleaned) if the sources of an _available_ jar are available or not. Then lay down an extra repository law: "Do not deploy sources on a later date after the pom has been deployed" to m

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Edwin Punzalan
+1 Its in my settings.xml too. On 7/3/07, Mark Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debug

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
I have had second thoughts on the proposal. To me, we are discussing something, that clearly is a user preference. As such, it belongs into either settings.xml or profiles.xml, possibly with activeByDefault=true. It should not enter a projects POM, if it is used by as many people as the Maven POM

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Brett Porter
On 04/07/2007, at 12:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Downloading sources (or javadocs) is an excellent thing, if the sources (or the javadocs) are available. Unfortunately this isn't the case in a real lot of cases. As a consequence, running the plugins can get darned slow. Apart from that, why

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Hobson
Okay, bit of a mixed bag for this vote: +1 javadoc: Brett, Dennis, Brian, Christian, Rahul -1 javadoc: Jochen, Stephane, Reinhard +1 sources: Mark, Dennis, Brian, Christian -1 sources: Brett, Jochen, Stephane, Reinhard, Rahul It seems there's a few prerequisites to this being widely accepted:

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-04 Thread Jörg Schaible
Cabasson Denis wrote on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:57 PM: > About this link, why couldn't we have a consistent behaviour > for javadoc and sources jar? [snip] Because here it becomes IDE dependent. Eclipse displays Javadoc automatically if the sources are available. No need to download Javadocs s

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Rahul Thakur
Same here. +1 to Javadoc -1 to download sources Cheers, Rahul - Original Message - From: "Brett Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maven Developers List" Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download source

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Christian Gruber
+1 for both (non binding), but the unavailability of either shouldn't spam consoles. Small concise warnings would be sufficient, if at all. Christian. On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Mark Hobson wrote: Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
Envoyé : Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:00 PM > À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources > by default within Maven projects > > And make this consistent with the IDEA plugin as well. > > On 7/3/07, Cabasson Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Cabasson Denis
to me). But I guess it's none of the above behaviours you were looking forward to. Denis. > -Message d'origine- > De : Stephane Nicoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:00 PM > À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plu

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources > by default within Maven projects > > On 03/07/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +1 to Javadoc > > > > -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) >

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On 7/3/07, Mark Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Stephane Nicoll
-1 (vote) in the way it's handled right now When you have lots of dependencies, it takes way much time to generate the project. I would go either into a FAQ explaining how to set this up in the pluginsManagement section of a super pom. Aligning the cache system from the eclipse plugin to the IDE

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Cabasson Denis
ra.codehaus.org/browse/MECLIPSE-292 Denis. > -Message d'origine- > De : Mark Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:08 PM > À : Maven Developers List > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources > by default within

RE: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Brian E. Fox
e it won't or find a way around it. From: Mark Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/3/2007 9:48 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects Following the recent thread "M

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Hobson
On 03/07/07, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -1 for both, although I like to have sources and javadocs attached to Eclipse. (Non-binding) Downloading sources (or javadocs) is an excellent thing, if the sources (or the javadocs) are available. Unfortunately this isn't the case in a rea

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Hobson
On 03/07/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) In the eclipse plugin, the downloadSources flag controls them both: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-eclipse-plugin/faq.html#import-javadoc Mark -

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/3/07, Mark Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0: I'll go with the flow

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Dennis Lundberg
+1 Mark Hobson wrote: Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0: I'll go with the flow [ ] -1: I like superfluous

Re: [VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Brett Porter
+1 to Javadoc -1 to sources (just a vote, not a veto :) On 03/07/2007, at 11:48 PM, Mark Hobson wrote: Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like J

[VOTE] Configure IDE plugins to download sources by default within Maven projects

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Hobson
Following the recent thread "Maven POM plugin config", this is a vote to add downloadSources=true to both the eclipse and idea plugin configurations in the maven-parent POM: [ ] +1: I like Javadoc and easy debugging [ ] +0: I'll go with the flow [ ] -1: I like superfluous typing, guessing Javadoc

Re: Sharing code between mvn IDE plugins (eclipse and idea)

2006-04-08 Thread Stephane Nicoll
FYI: we have the same problem with M1 plugins. We might need to consider any solution for m1 as well. Stéphane On 4/1/06, Fabrizio Giustina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > I recently noticed a lot of duplicated effort in order to implement > similar things in the eclipse and idea plugins. Do

Re: Sharing code between mvn IDE plugins (eclipse and idea)

2006-04-06 Thread Fabrizio Giustina
Hi, > > I think collecting all the code used for IDE work is a good idea. But I > > think we should try not only to collect common code for the Maven 2 > > plugins but also for the IDE extensions as much of the same code could > > be shared. Sure, also IDE extensions will have lots of code to sha

Re: Sharing code between mvn IDE plugins (eclipse and idea)

2006-04-06 Thread Milos Kleint
On 4/4/06, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Fabrizio, > > I think collecting all the code used for IDE work is a good idea. But I > think we should try not only to collect common code for the Maven 2 > plugins but also for the IDE extensions as much of the same code could > be shared.

Re: Sharing code between mvn IDE plugins (eclipse and idea)

2006-04-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi Fabrizio, I think collecting all the code used for IDE work is a good idea. But I think we should try not only to collect common code for the Maven 2 plugins but also for the IDE extensions as much of the same code could be shared. For example I know that Milos and Eugene have separately a

Re: Sharing code between mvn IDE plugins (eclipse and idea)

2006-04-01 Thread Brett Porter
+1. We have a shared space for these types of libraries. I should really be doing the same thing with the JXR support code I've been wiring in everywhere :) - Brett Fabrizio Giustina wrote: > Hi, > I recently noticed a lot of duplicated effort in order to implement > similar things in the eclips

Sharing code between mvn IDE plugins (eclipse and idea)

2006-04-01 Thread Fabrizio Giustina
Hi, I recently noticed a lot of duplicated effort in order to implement similar things in the eclipse and idea plugins. Downloading of source artifacts and javadocs has been reimplemented in the idea one, and I recently took off some bits of the custom artifact resolution used in the idea plugin an

RE: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-15 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi John, John Casey wrote on Monday, November 14, 2005 6:09 PM: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > This is going to sound completely ugly, but what I've found > to work best when I have multiple interrelated (ie. same > application) projects is to create one massive eclipse >

RE: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-15 Thread Vincent Massol
> From: John Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: lundi 14 novembre 2005 18:09 > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > This is going to sound completely ugly, but wh

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-14 Thread John Casey
eaner separation of APIs, and keeps your IDE more lined up with your build environment...it also keeps the versions of your dependencies up to date. Just my 2c. - -john Brett Porter wrote: | Hi, | | Can we discuss how to make the ide plugins behave consistently? It | appears that, in particula

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-14 Thread Milos Kleint
btw the same project interdependecies resolution is done in mevenide for netbeans (both for m1 and m2) since that one is an IDE plugin, not maven plugin, it allows to dynamically change the jar/project linking on project open/close. for example if I work on mevenide, then maven dependencies are onl

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-14 Thread Kaare Nilsen
Ok.. after some thought I need to reevaluate my opinion on this. I have now played a little with the eclipse plugin, and well.. i must admit that i like the way it behaves. So using project references for projects in the same reactor build where the version of the project in the reactor, and the v

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-14 Thread Kaare Nilsen
My mistake You are right Mark. So it seems like the eclipse plugin does it alot like what Brett are describing.. But again.. this is to automagically for me ;) On 14/11/05, Mark Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The eclipse plugin *does* create different project files depending on > where it's

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-14 Thread Mark Hobson
The eclipse plugin *does* create different project files depending on where it's run. It uses project references if the other projects are within the reactor build. It's also very particular regarding versions, as this thread details: http://www.nabble.com/eclipse%3Aeclipse-and-direct-project-re

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-13 Thread Kaare Nilsen
Well, no.. I think that what you are describing is somewhat to magical for me ;) You say that the idea plugin creates different projects depending on where you run the command, i personally finds that very confusing. In my opinion a plugin after configured in the module pom (or a parent) should beh

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-13 Thread Brett Porter
Yes, I definitely agree with that. This discussion should be about the default, but be configurable. So, you say the eclipse plugin does well - is it the same or different to the idea plugin as I described it? - Brett Kaare Nilsen wrote: Then supply good default behaviour (where i really do

Re: making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-13 Thread Kaare Nilsen
ob). And finally let the users choose how they want to use it. On 14/11/05, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Can we discuss how to make the ide plugins behave consistently? It > appears that, in particular, there are a lot of discussions about > Eclipse and

making behaviour of ide plugins consistent

2005-11-13 Thread Brett Porter
Hi, Can we discuss how to make the ide plugins behave consistently? It appears that, in particular, there are a lot of discussions about Eclipse and direct project references, and as I'm not a user I don't really follow them - but I'm concerned that they might be arriving

[jira] Closed: (MNG-1127) IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots

2005-10-07 Thread Brett Porter (JIRA)
[ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1127?page=all ] Brett Porter closed MNG-1127: - Resolution: Fixed Fix Version: 2.0-beta-4 > IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots > --- > > K

[jira] Reopened: (MNG-1127) IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots

2005-10-07 Thread Brett Porter (JIRA)
[ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1127?page=all ] Brett Porter reopened MNG-1127: --- not a dupe of MNG-230 > IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots > --- > > Key: MNG-1127 >

[jira] Commented: (MNG-1127) IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots

2005-10-07 Thread Mark Hobson (JIRA)
[ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1127?page=comments#action_48038 ] Mark Hobson commented on MNG-1127: -- I think you mean MNG-230 ;) > IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots > --- > > K

[jira] Closed: (MNG-1127) IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots

2005-10-07 Thread Brett Porter (JIRA)
[ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1127?page=all ] Brett Porter closed MNG-1127: - Resolution: Duplicate Fix Version: (was: 2.0-beta-4) is actually a duplicate of MNG-320 entirely > IDE plugins get wrong path to snapsh

[jira] Updated: (MNG-1127) IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots

2005-10-07 Thread Brett Porter (JIRA)
[ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1127?page=all ] Brett Porter updated MNG-1127: -- Remaining Estimate: 15 minutes Original Estimate: 900 > IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots > --- > > K

[jira] Created: (MNG-1127) IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots

2005-10-07 Thread Brett Porter (JIRA)
IDE plugins get wrong path to snapshots --- Key: MNG-1127 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1127 Project: Maven 2 Type: Bug Components: maven-artifact Reporter: Brett Porter Assigned to: Brett Porter Fix For

Re: IDE Plugins

2005-04-23 Thread Brett Porter
This is definitely a possiblity in Maven 2.x - in fact one of the earlier prototypes was built in a client/server fashion. However, the more common case would be for it to be embedded as I explained earlier so you can add your own components and listeners. If you wanted to embed it in a small serve

RE: IDE Plugins

2005-04-22 Thread Inger, Matthew
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:11 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: IDE Plugins On 4/21/05, Inger, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any plans to implement a sort of Remote API to ease development of > plugins > for IDE's? > > R

RE: IDE Plugins

2005-04-22 Thread Inger, Matthew
: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:07 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: IDE Plugins You're probably thinking of the IDEA plugins previously in existence? I never got them to work for me, and attempts to contact the authors went unanswered. I'd endorse the MevenIDE project's work - I

RE: IDE Plugins

2005-04-21 Thread Mattias Olofsson
ssage- From: Milos Kleint [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 22 april 2005 08:11 To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: IDE Plugins On 4/21/05, Inger, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any plans to implement a sort of Remote API to ease > development of plugins for

Re: IDE Plugins

2005-04-21 Thread Milos Kleint
On 4/21/05, Inger, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any plans to implement a sort of Remote API to ease development of > plugins > for IDE's? > > Right now, I think most IDE plugins are starting maven in console mode, > issuing commands > t

Re: IDE Plugins

2005-04-21 Thread Brett Porter
cally). We need some more work and testing on this, but if anyone starts using it in this fashion it will definitely be possible. - Brett Inger, Matthew wrote: >Is there any plans to implement a sort of Remote API to ease development of >plugins >for IDE's? > >Right now, I

IDE Plugins

2005-04-21 Thread Inger, Matthew
Is there any plans to implement a sort of Remote API to ease development of plugins for IDE's? Right now, I think most IDE plugins are starting maven in console mode, issuing commands through the processes standard in (process.getOutputStream), and reading the results back from the proces