Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-21 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/12/19 Dennis Lundberg > On 2011-12-19 10:02, Antonio Petrelli wrote: > > 2011/12/19 Stephen Connolly > > > >> Here is my golden rule of builds. > >> > >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. > >> > > > > I don't know it is broke, however it is flawed. > > They are deploying Maven artifacts too

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-20 Thread Brian Fox
> > If Ant is their primary build tool, then I would suggest helping them > set up Ant to use Maven Ant Tasks as a starting point. That is a great > way of enabling an Ant build to deploy the artifacts into a Maven-style > repository. > I would second that. In fact Ant/Ivy both already deploy to Ne

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
On 2011-12-19 10:02, Antonio Petrelli wrote: > 2011/12/19 Stephen Connolly > >> Here is my golden rule of builds. >> >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. >> > > I don't know it is broke, however it is flawed. > They are deploying Maven artifacts too using pom.xml files, so there is a > mix with M

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/12/19 Jason van Zyl > Antonio, you have to solicit the developers of Tomcat not us. You also > have to convince the users of Tomcat because those are the only people who > should be influencing the decisions of the developers. Maven developers > telling Tomcat developers to switch is somethi

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
Antonio, you have to solicit the developers of Tomcat not us. You also have to convince the users of Tomcat because those are the only people who should be influencing the decisions of the developers. Maven developers telling Tomcat developers to switch is something at least within Apache I have

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/12/19 Olivier Lamy > BTW again as tomcat core dev are more confident using something else > why change ? > The most important is to have bug fixed and new features added. > Tools are companion to help the project they must not be the central > point to take care. > > At least using maven can

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Olivier Lamy
2011/12/19 Antonio Petrelli : > 2011/12/17 Olivier Lamy > >> 2011/12/17 Antonio Petrelli : >> > Hi all >> > Can you help me convincing the Tomcat team to switch to Maven? >> why ? >> As long as tomcat core dev are more comfortable with something else >> what will be the gain for us ? >> Perso I ha

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/12/19 Stephen Connolly > Here is my golden rule of builds. > > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. > I don't know it is broke, however it is flawed. They are deploying Maven artifacts too using pom.xml files, so there is a mix with Maven/Ant. In fact, everything started with Mark Thomas that w

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
Also, keep in mind that ANT was spun out from Tomcat IIRC, so there is a long history of Tomcat being built with ANT On 19 December 2011 08:55, Stephen Connolly wrote: > Here is my golden rule of builds. > > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. > > By the sounds of it, the tomcat developers have a bu

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
Here is my golden rule of builds. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. By the sounds of it, the tomcat developers have a build that they do not see as broken. They are happy with it. If you cannot show how their build is broken for _them_ (not broken for you or broken for others) *and* how maven (or

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/12/17 Benson Margulies > well, not every problem is well-solved by maven. > In fact yes. If something is missing, writing a plugin could be an idea. Antonio

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-19 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/12/17 Olivier Lamy > 2011/12/17 Antonio Petrelli : > > Hi all > > Can you help me convincing the Tomcat team to switch to Maven? > why ? > As long as tomcat core dev are more comfortable with something else > what will be the gain for us ? > Perso I have started in tc7.x branch but did not f

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-17 Thread Olivier Lamy
2011/12/17 Antonio Petrelli : > Hi all > Can you help me convincing the Tomcat team to switch to Maven? why ? As long as tomcat core dev are more comfortable with something else what will be the gain for us ? Perso I have started in tc7.x branch but did not finish (as not a lot of enthusiasm) see h

Re: Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-17 Thread Benson Margulies
well, not every problem is well-solved by maven. On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: > Hi all > Can you help me convincing the Tomcat team to switch to Maven? > See this thread: > http://tomcat.markmail.org/message/cp2czoud67m7qfb5 > and the previous: > http://tomcat.markmail.or

Help me convincing Tomcat to use Maven

2011-12-17 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Hi all Can you help me convincing the Tomcat team to switch to Maven? See this thread: http://tomcat.markmail.org/message/cp2czoud67m7qfb5 and the previous: http://tomcat.markmail.org/message/yyouywyp26bc7rg5 Thanks Antonio