Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 There is no reason to have *NEW* development of Maven be hampered by obsolete technology. If anyone can't upgrade their Java runtime for whatever reason, they probably won't upgrade to a new Maven version as well. 3.0.4 works rather well and anyone should really be tying down their plugin versi

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jesse Glick wrote: > On 02/06/2013 05:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? >> > > The largest in this context would probably be: > > - annotation processors > I'm really vague on this, but wasn't there som

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Gregory
On Feb 7, 2013, at 19:28, Jesse Glick wrote: > On 02/06/2013 05:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: >> What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? > > The largest in this context would probably be: > > - annotation processors > - script engine > - split bytecode verifier (thus quicker s

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Jesse Glick
On 02/06/2013 05:23 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? The largest in this context would probably be: - annotation processors - script engine - split bytecode verifier (thus quicker startup) Java 7 is a bigger bump (NIO.2, try-with-resources

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
Hi Nigel. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Nigel Magnay wrote: > > > > > > I am running Maven inside of Jenkins inside of WebSphere on AIX. I am > > currently hosting Jenkins under WAS 6.1 on AIX 5.3. Whilst AIX 5.3 is > > nearing (or may have reached it's EOS), WAS 6.1's EOS dates have *just > b

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1000 Regards, Hervé Le jeudi 7 février 2013 11:46:52 Stephen Connolly a écrit : [...] > I am against moving up "just because". However I am all in favour of moving > up "because XYZ". > > For me invalid reasons to move to as a runtime requirement 1.6 are things > like: > > * I cannot get a 1.

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
Hi Stephen, No, Java 1.6 is not available for AIX 5.3. It's support started as of 6.1. Nicely worded on the good reasons. The project that I'm working on now is upgrading everying, but even then, we're only targeting 1.6, as that is what WAS/WPS/APS V8 all run on. -Chris On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 a

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Mirko Friedenhagen
Hello, I agree with Nigel here, those who need to use an outdated version of the JDK now have to use an outdated version of Maven as well. Testing stuff with different JDK versions is work as well. Stephen, I for one would love at least 1.6 for one single reason: having @Override at interfaces :-

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Gregory
So... Make it Java 7! Gary On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:12, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: > I must say i am rather luke-warm about *ever* making 1.6 minimum. The few > interesting things (functionally) that happened in 1.6 are well covered > with reflection, and I'd be tempted to just wait until we can do

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I must say i am rather luke-warm about *ever* making 1.6 minimum. The few interesting things (functionally) that happened in 1.6 are well covered with reflection, and I'd be tempted to just wait until we can do 1.7 base ;) As for being able to support multiple versions, I generally make different

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Nigel Magnay
> > > I am running Maven inside of Jenkins inside of WebSphere on AIX. I am > currently hosting Jenkins under WAS 6.1 on AIX 5.3. Whilst AIX 5.3 is > nearing (or may have reached it's EOS), WAS 6.1's EOS dates have *just been > extended* by a year! > > You know that Jenkins is looking like going Ja

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff MAURY
+1 on Stephen's reasons Jeff On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Stephen Connolly < stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7 February 2013 08:58, Chris Graham wrote: > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 07/02/2013, at 6:59 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > > > > > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 7 February 2013 08:58, Chris Graham wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/02/2013, at 6:59 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > > > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : > >> > >> Hey All. > >> > >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. > >> > >> Whilst

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Gary Gregory
On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:00, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : >> >> Hey All. >> >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. >> >> Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny >> and new, > > Please. Can

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Mark Struberg" > To: "Maven Developers List" > Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 12:23:39 AM > Subject: Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum > > > > What are the big features and possibilities we gain from 1.6? That&#

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Chris Graham
Sent from my iPhone On 07/02/2013, at 6:59 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : >> >> Hey All. >> >> Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. >> >> Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
2013/2/7 Stephen Connolly : > On Thursday, 7 February 2013, Nicolas Delsaux wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Olivier Lamy > >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). >> > >> > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 20

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 7 February 2013, Nicolas Delsaux wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Olivier Lamy > > wrote: > > Hi, > > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). > > > > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. > > > > Can we say we are safe to

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Nicolas Delsaux
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi, > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). > > Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. > > Can we say we are safe to go to 1.6 as minimum required ? > Don't fully understand the question.

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-07 Thread Baptiste MATHUS
Le 7 févr. 2013 04:54, "Chris Graham" a écrit : > > Hey All. > > Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. > > Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny > and new, Please. Can we stop using that kind of father-ish formulation? That's not

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Graham
Hey All. Regarding the discussions around upgrading to a minimum of Java 1.6. Whilst I understand the desire for developers to play with something shiny and new, I do find that the current 1.5 based Maven is more than sufficient for our needs. I lot of responses about the upgrade are normally ar

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Manfred Moser
Totally agree... if people really need to build for older Java runtimes they still can.. but if Oracle thinks they dont want to support JDK < 1.7 without getting paid why would the Maven project do it ;-) For now 1.6 seems just fine and I would even say a jump to 1.7 in the next year or three (;-

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Stephen Connolly
b > > > > > > > >> > >> From: Baptiste MATHUS > >>To: Maven Developers List > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:31 PM > >>Subject: Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum > >> > >>+1, bump to JDK

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Olivier Lamy
not that far ago ;) :-) That's a periodic discussion we have so I try again. The main features I'd like to use are more in 1.7. > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > >> >> From: Baptiste MATHUS >>To: Maven Developers List &

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Struberg
ng IT, etc)? As comparison: we still supported 1.4 and older until not that far ago ;) LieGrue, strub > > From: Baptiste MATHUS >To: Maven Developers List >Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:31 PM >Subject: Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum > >+1

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Gary Gregory
+1 (non-binding) On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > +1, bump to JDK6 minimum for Maven. > > > 2013/2/6 Stephen Connolly > > > I think we should at least have a minor version bump on core to > > co-incide... Though I think calling it maven 4.0 might be better (that > way >

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Baptiste MATHUS
+1, bump to JDK6 minimum for Maven. 2013/2/6 Stephen Connolly > I think we should at least have a minor version bump on core to > co-incide... Though I think calling it maven 4.0 might be better (that way > we catch up with the model version ;-) > > On Wednesday, 6 February 2013, Olivier Lamy w

Re: EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Stephen Connolly
I think we should at least have a minor version bump on core to co-incide... Though I think calling it maven 4.0 might be better (that way we catch up with the model version ;-) On Wednesday, 6 February 2013, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi, > As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about tha

EOL of 1.5 as minimum

2013-02-06 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hi, As we are now in 2013, it's probably time to think about that (again). Reading [1], even 1.6 won't be anymore updated after feb 2013. Can we say we are safe to go to 1.6 as minimum required ? NOTE: That will probably need a vote. So depending on how the thread move, I will start a vote (or n