Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-09-02 Thread Enrico Olivelli
Thank you Gary. I have updated the draft of release notes: https://github.com/apache/maven-site/pull/99/files I am closing the vote now and move forward with the release. I will use that branch as base for the release notes, we can always amend/fix/enhance them Enrico Il giorno lun 2 set 2019 a

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-09-02 Thread Gary Gregory
FWIW, over in Apache Commons, I take the following approach when filling in the due-to attribute for an issue in changes.xml: I list the reporter first (the person who created the jira or wrote an email, then each person who participated in any way in chronological order, even if it is just making

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-09-02 Thread Tibor Digana
We have the contributors in POM. See this https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/pom.xml#L120 This dicussion is also personal opinions which is acceptable for thinking of new improvements in the release processes. We can always improve them and simplify. Next time, I vote for production of A

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-09-02 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Agree, +1 for a single list (see last paragraph for a note on this) @Tibor: we dont really have a contibutor section in the pom :p. Joke apart, it cant be used at all here because it ignores the time slice the report requires and does not scale well in time. Jira and git are reliable and easily sc

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-09-02 Thread Robert Scholte
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 19:59:01 +0200, Enrico Olivelli wrote: Any suggestion ? I am leaning towards creating a single list of "Contributors" and a list of "Reporters" I agree with Romain that we're kind of mixing the different kind of reports, but in all cases every block of text needs to

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-09-02 Thread Enrico Olivelli
Any suggestion ? I am leaning towards creating a single list of "Contributors" and a list of "Reporters" I have to close the VOTE, I will wait to reach consensus on this release notes stuff before closing the vote. Enrico Il giorno sab 31 ago 2019 alle ore 17:18 Tibor Digana < tibordig...@apach

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-31 Thread Tibor Digana
We have contributors listed directly in the POM https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/pom.xml#L120 If we started with this great idea to list contributors in POM, we should continue with it and this is the same privilege for future contributurs as well. They will be listed on the Maven sites

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-31 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
My 2cts would be that maybe we are mixing things (all points "IMHO" but trying to make them short): 1. Changelog: jira+github driven, must be exhaustive about changes and stay forever with a permalink on the website 2. Release notes: some highlights from the changelog, likely user impacts mainly a

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-31 Thread Enrico Olivelli
In my opinion release notes should tell: - new features/news and noteworthy - user visible changes - breaking changes I would add a list of contributors. The list of 'reporters' is not useful. I see we are doing those lists in order to have a better engagement with the community, but I am not sur

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-31 Thread Tibor Digana
For me and many users the Release Note like this are very hard to read and hard to find what is needed. Many times they go to google because it's easier to search than walking through all versions of release notes. We do not have a cumulative documentation with a list of features and we often poin

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-31 Thread Robert Scholte
The goal of release notes is that they are being read. There should be a good balance of the amount of information, preventing people to say TLDR; A long list of 'MNG- John Doe' doesn't provide me useful information. The list of 'MNG- A good JIRA title' is useful and visiting the rel

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-31 Thread Tibor Digana
We should use authors of the issue/PR/idea. After the release we can ask WHY (practical goals) he wanted the feature more than how. The question for "HOW" has to be placed very early during the review, but too late after the PR has been merged. I expect that the reviewer developer has checked all t

Re: Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-30 Thread Robert Scholte
Not sure if the reader of the release notes is helped with a long list of reporters and contributers per issue. I would expect that only a list of (unique) names is good enough. If there is someone that deserves extra credits, I'd say it is Stefan Oehme for diving into the code, looking for m

Draft of release notes for Maven 3.6.2

2019-08-30 Thread Enrico Olivelli
Hi all, I have sent a draft of the release notes for 3.6.2 this is the PR https://github.com/apache/maven-site/pull/99/files Feel free to add comments or push fixes directly to the branch. It still lacks a bit of formatting, but the content is ready Cheers Enrico