Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-04 Thread Brian Fox
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Jorg Heymans wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Brian Fox wrote: >> Something like duplicate dependencies likely means you have a real >> problem you didn't know about in your poms. I think failing is >> appropriate in this case. > > I fail to grok what you j

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-04 Thread Jorg Heymans
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Brian Fox wrote: > Something like duplicate dependencies likely means you have a real > problem you didn't know about in your poms. I think failing is > appropriate in this case. I fail to grok what you just said there. So if i have in my pom javax.pers

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Brian Fox
Something like duplicate dependencies likely means you have a real problem you didn't know about in your poms. I think failing is appropriate in this case. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > 2009/12/3 Stephen Connolly > >> >> >> 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans >> >>> On Thu, Dec 3

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/12/3 Stephen Connolly > > > 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Connolly >> wrote: >> > 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann >> >> wrote: >> >> > Jorg Heymans wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> [ERROR] The project b

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Connolly > wrote: > > 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans > > > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann > >> wrote: > >> > Jorg Heymans wrote: > >> > > >> >> [ERROR] The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT > >> >> (D:\src\myproje

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Jorg Heymans
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > 2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann >> wrote: >> > Jorg Heymans wrote: >> > >> >> [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT >> >> (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error >> >> [ERROR] >> >> >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/12/3 Jorg Heymans > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann > wrote: > > Jorg Heymans wrote: > > > >> [ERROR] The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT > >> (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error > >> [ERROR] > >> > 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:ty

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-12-03 Thread Jorg Heymans
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote: > Jorg Heymans wrote: > >> [ERROR]   The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT >> (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error >> [ERROR] >> 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)' >> must be unique: junit:ju

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-28 Thread Brian Fox
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > Brian, > > I'm not sure if you were replying to me or others, but you quoted me and > snipped my actual point: > > "I'm fine with either more or less frequent releases... I'm not fine with > circumventing review or pushing releases outside t

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-27 Thread Brett Porter
Brian, I'm not sure if you were replying to me or others, but you quoted me and snipped my actual point: "I'm fine with either more or less frequent releases... I'm not fine with circumventing review or pushing releases outside the ASF." I agree with everything you said below. I was saying we

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-27 Thread Brian Fox
> I'm also not pushing for duration for "testing" purposes. That's part of it, > but as Jason said >automation can reduce the need over time (though it's never going to be 100% >so there's some value >in testing). However, it is mostly for an opportunity to review changes. If we >do "8 releases

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Brett Porter
On 27/11/2009, at 2:27 AM, Todd Thiessen wrote: >> The logic here is flawed because it is from a single >> perspective of an >> individual who finds it burdensome to validate each and every release. > > It isn't just me. Both Paul and Brett expressed similar concerns ;-). I don't think this

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Hi, The vote has passed with the following result: +1 (binding): Benjamin Bentmann, Jason van Zyl, Arnaud Héritier, Olivier Lamy +1 (non-binding): Nicolas De Loof, Stephen Connolly, Igor Fedorenko I will promote the artifacts to the central repository and continue with the release. Benja

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2009-11-26, at 11:23 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 2009-11-26, at 8:04 AM, Todd Thiessen wrote: I can only speak from experience with what we have done here internally but I can also attest that releasing too often is a real pain. You en

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2009-11-26, at 11:04 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Todd Thiessen wrote: I can only speak from experience with what we have done here internally but I can also attest that releasing too often is a real pain. You end up having a bunch of releases publicized that no

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > On 2009-11-26, at 8:04 AM, Todd Thiessen wrote: > >> I can only speak from experience with what we have done here internally but >> I can also attest that releasing too often is a real pain. You end up having >> a bunch of releases publici

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Ralph Goers
On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Todd Thiessen wrote: > I can only speak from experience with what we have done here internally but I > can also attest that releasing too often is a real pain. You end up having a > bunch of releases publicized that no one cares about. It only serves to > clutter a

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
s.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:21 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5 I would also like to contribute my frustration with the current build process. It's great the alpha releases

RE: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Todd Thiessen
ying to evaluate 3.x. > > > --- > > Todd Thiessen > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com > >> [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 20

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Jason van Zyl
s.benedic...@gmail.com [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:21 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5 I would also like to contribute my frustration with the current build process.

RE: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-26 Thread Todd Thiessen
> -Original Message- > From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com > [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:21 PM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5 >

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/11/26 Paul Benedict : > I would also like to contribute my frustration with the current build > process. It's great the alpha releases are coming out often, but I > cannot possibly be testing them at the frequency you guys are > currently tagging and voting. I thought the "once a week" alpha w

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Paul Benedict
I would also like to contribute my frustration with the current build process. It's great the alpha releases are coming out often, but I cannot possibly be testing them at the frequency you guys are currently tagging and voting. I thought the "once a week" alpha was a good idea until it actually ha

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
Let's not beat the dead horse. No one cares. There's not good reason for not releasing something immediately if there are fixes available. That's just not the way it works here, that's fine and not a big deal. On 2009-11-25, at 7:52 PM, Brett Porter wrote: On 26/11/2009, at 6:24 AM, Jason

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Brett Porter
On 26/11/2009, at 6:24 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > If ever we really needed to push out builds more frequently I would just do > it from Sonatype. I've given up trying to be truly agile at Apache, it's just > not going to happen. I don't understand what the issue is with the current process. Be

Re: voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
If ever we really needed to push out builds more frequently I would just do it from Sonatype. I've given up trying to be truly agile at Apache, it's just not going to happen. On 2009-11-25, at 2:10 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Paul Gier

voting was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Dan Fabulich
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Paul Gier wrote: I wonder if we really need a full vote for every alpha.  Especially if this is going to happen every two weeks.  Why not just vote for a 2 week alpha release schedule and then don't do another vote until it's time for bet

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-25 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Paul Gier wrote: > I wonder if we really need a full vote for every alpha.  Especially if this > is going to happen every two weeks.  Why not just vote for a 2 week alpha > release schedule and then don't do another vote until it's time for beta 1? The ASF require

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-24 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 2009/11/23 Benjamin Bentmann : > Hi, > > We solved some more issues: > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=14952 > > There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10500&status=1 > > Stag

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-24 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Jorg Heymans wrote: [ERROR] The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error [ERROR] 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)' must be unique: junit:junit:jar -> duplicate declaration of version 3.8.2 Shall i log an issue

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-24 Thread Jorg Heymans
Tried it out on our project, and i'm getting this: [ERROR] The project build-tools:1-SNAPSHOT (D:\src\myproject\pom.xml) has 1 error [ERROR] 'dependencyManagement.dependencies.dependency.(groupId:artifactId:type:classifier)' must be unique: junit:junit:jar -> duplicate declaration of versio

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Igor Fedorenko
+1 -- Regards, Igor Benjamin Bentmann wrote: Hi, We solved some more issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=14952 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10500&status=1

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Paul Gier
I wonder if we really need a full vote for every alpha. Especially if this is going to happen every two weeks. Why not just vote for a 2 week alpha release schedule and then don't do another vote until it's time for beta 1? Benjamin Bentmann wrote: Hi, We solved some more issues: http://jir

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 2009/11/23 nicolas de loof : > +1 > > 2009/11/23 Arnaud HERITIER > >> +1 >> >> Arnaud Héritier >> Software Factory Manager >> eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com >> --- >> http://www.aheritier.net >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >> >> > +1 >> > >> > >> > O

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread nicolas de loof
+1 2009/11/23 Arnaud HERITIER > +1 > > Arnaud Héritier > Software Factory Manager > eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com > --- > http://www.aheritier.net > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
+1 Arnaud Héritier Software Factory Manager eXo platform - http://www.exoplatform.com --- http://www.aheritier.net On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > +1 > > > On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote: > > Hi, >> >> We solved some more issues: >> >> http://jira.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 2009-11-23, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote: Hi, We solved some more issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=14952 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10500&stat

[VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-5

2009-11-23 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Hi, We solved some more issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=14952 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10500&status=1 Staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/r