Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-21 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm with Kristian, as if he needs any help here. We aren't anywhere near where we'd have to be to feel confident that a release of some component was guaranteed regression-free in all obscure cases. One small thought: if people would mark their votes 'binding' or 'nonbinding', it would reduce th

Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Technically I'd get away with updating 2-3 artifacts, but I'd end up writing a cookbook on how to add a crapload of dependencies to the plugins in question and answering on the mailing list and irc, and in the end we'd have a ton of poms lying around with 3 overridden dependencies in 4-5 plugin

Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Brett Porter
Kristian can describe in more detail what he's working on, but not all changes take 8 artifact changes. In this case I think it's both that it's something that affects multiple things (rather than dependencies), and also a couple of things that have been broken down to one too separate many arti

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
n see its own classes. This way it is no problem that there >> are more versions of a plugin (or any other dependency) being used in the >> same maven build. >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Mark Derricutt wrote: >> >> > Fro

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
rue, > strub > > --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Mark Derricutt wrote: > > > From: Mark Derricutt > > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > To: "Maven Developers List" > > Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 8:27 PM > > Wow - that seems like a hell

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Struberg
the same maven build. LieGrue, strub --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Mark Derricutt wrote: > From: Mark Derricutt > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > To: "Maven Developers List" > Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 8:27 PM > Wow - that seems like a hell of a lot &

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
Wow - that seems like a hell of a lot of releases having to be made... This post is probably drifting off topic but the thing that strikes me here is that this is the exact reason why maven supports version ranges - so that you don't have to make a plethora of rolling releases just because one cha

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM To: Maven Developers List Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin, When you sent your message containing

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
onald wrote: -Original Message- From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: B

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
aven Developers List >> Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au >> Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 >> >> Gavin, >> >> When you sent your message containing the words, "ignore me," I was >> planning to take you at your word. But since

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM > To: Maven Developers List > Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > Gavin, > > When you se

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
;> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >>> >> Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM >>> >> To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List >>> >> Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 >>> >> &g

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 20 June 2011 10:48, Gavin McDonald wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl >> Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM >> To: Maven Developers List >> Subject: Re: [VOT

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl > Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > > > Gavin McDonald wrote: > &g

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Den 19.06.2011 23:08, skrev Gavin McDonald: I would be happy with weeks to be honest. Then again I have been used to being around slower projects that have released only every 2 or 3 years once 1 or 2 hundred issues have been gathered into a release. And the release process itself takes week

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Derricutt [mailto:m...@talios.com] > Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 9:37 PM > To: Maven Developers List; ga...@16degrees.com.au > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > I'd rather see a release with 3 bug fixes

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Kristian Rosenvold [mailto:kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 7:50 PM > To: 'Maven Developers List' > Subject: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > Dont know if we're looking at

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
;>> does a release they don't think is worth it. >>> >>> Kristian >>> >>> >>> sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald: >>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Benson Margulies [ma

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
nson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM >>>> To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List >>>> Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
>> >> >> sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald: >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM >>>> To: Maven Developers List

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
2011 6:08 AM >> > To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List >> > Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > We solved 3 issues: >> >> Really? You'd release a product

Re: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
screen > On 19 Jun 2011 09:35, "Gavin McDonald" wrote: >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM >>> To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project M

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Derricutt
2011 at 8:34 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM > > To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List > > Subject:

Re: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
>> To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List >> Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 >> >> Hi, >> >> We solved 3 issues: > > Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues? > > Having looked at th

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
> -Original Message- > > From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM > > To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List > > Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > > > Hi,

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM > To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List > Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > Hi, > > We solv

[VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-18 Thread Benson Margulies
Hi, We solved 3 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DESC&mode=hide Staging repo: https://