Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Yup it works now but I remember it took me a lot of time to make it happen. On 9/18/06, David J. M. Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandre Poitras wrote: > I think this is the issue I was referring too. I just know that I > can't use a snapshot dependency that has a timestamp in its filena

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread David J. M. Karlsen
Alexandre Poitras wrote: I think this is the issue I was referring too. I just know that I can't use a snapshot dependency that has a timestamp in its filename or I won't get the last version. I remember Brett couple of months ago saying this feature wasn't implemented yet. I'll try to find the J

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Oh sorry I was sure it was when you have a timestamp in your filename. Maybe I should test it again. Anyway, I just think there should a big note on the web site about this issue somewhere until the new version is released because it's really confusing at first. I spent a lot of time figuring out

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Brett Porter
That's the opposite to what you keep saying. It's when you *don't* have a timestamp in the version number. I could have sworn John fixed this recently, though... On 19/09/2006, at 1:16 AM, Alexandre Poitras wrote: That's the real one : http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1908 On 9/18/06, Al

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
That's the real one : http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1908 On 9/18/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oops wrong one, forget the last email. On 9/18/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the issue I am speaking about : > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Oops wrong one, forget the last email. On 9/18/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's the issue I am speaking about : http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2289 On 9/18/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is the issue I was referring too. I just know t

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Here's the issue I am speaking about : http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2289 On 9/18/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this is the issue I was referring too. I just know that I can't use a snapshot dependency that has a timestamp in its filename or I won't get the last

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
I think this is the issue I was referring too. I just know that I can't use a snapshot dependency that has a timestamp in its filename or I won't get the last version. I remember Brett couple of months ago saying this feature wasn't implemented yet. I'll try to find the JIRA issue. This is defini

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-17 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 9/17/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another thing I would like to see fixed is the snapshot apache repository. Nighlty builds are still deployed using a unique version identifier. This feature doesn't work and this is why a lot of people have trouble when it's come to snapsh

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-17 Thread Brett Porter
On 18/09/2006, at 12:40 AM, Alexandre Poitras wrote: Another thing I would like to see fixed is the snapshot apache repository. Nighlty builds are still deployed using a unique version identifier. This feature doesn't work and this is why a lot of people have trouble when it's come to snapshot

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-17 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Another thing I would like to see fixed is the snapshot apache repository. Nighlty builds are still deployed using a unique version identifier. This feature doesn't work and this is why a lot of people have trouble when it's come to snapshot dependencies. It should be written very big somewhere on

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-04 Thread Brett Porter
On 05/09/2006, at 2:41 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: That's a surprising admission sense I never would have thought of maven development as being stalled. Thank goodness Google gives me a couple gigs for email otherwise I would have to dump email every other day it seems. Well, the project

RE: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-04 Thread Jeff Jensen
(Since you didn't mention it) CruiseControl works really well for us, if you need something now. -Original Message- From: Wendell Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:41 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-04 Thread Wendell Beckwith
On 9/4/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 30/08/2006, at 6:10 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: > For my team, I have been using, with minor adaptations, the eclipse > dev > process and in general I think it has the right amount of > "agility". We > post our plan early with our commited,

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-04 Thread Brett Porter
Yes, there are some open tasks (That I forwarded to the dev list last week) to start stitching things together. Once this is done we should do a big push of all the plugin documentation. Any fixes that are made now should go on the plugin trunk - there's no other place for it, the stuff on

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-04 Thread Brett Porter
On 30/08/2006, at 6:10 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: For my team, I have been using, with minor adaptations, the eclipse dev process and in general I think it has the right amount of "agility". We post our plan early with our commited, proposed, deferred and rejected items for the next relea

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-29 Thread Franz Allan Valencia See
Good day, About a couple of months ago, the documentation site of the maven 2 plugins have been revised [1]. Though most have already been reviewed, they are still not yet out for release. However, now that the documentation issue have been raised again, I am wondering of how we are going to go

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-29 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Sorry, I did walk away there for a little bit. On 8/27/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 28/08/2006, at 7:14 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: > Take toady's latest example, say you want to remove an ant build > file and do > things the maven way, so you decide to use the dependency p

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-27 Thread Brett Porter
On 28/08/2006, at 7:14 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: Take toady's latest example, say you want to remove an ant build file and do things the maven way, so you decide to use the dependency plugin. The web site examples have the group and artifactId being org.apache.maven.plugin dependency-ma

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-27 Thread Graham Leggett
Jason Dillon wrote: I'm curious... what "key maven1 features" are you referring to that have not been completed in maven2? Some specific ones that bit us were the inability to embed dependencies into EJBs, and the EAR plugin's inability to handle Jboss specific artifacts, like HAR files. We

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-27 Thread Jason Dillon
I'm curious... what "key maven1 features" are you referring to that have not been completed in maven2? --jason On Aug 27, 2006, at 2:52 PM, Graham Leggett wrote: Wendell Beckwith wrote: > You're like original band members, but it hurts to say that you all are getting your asses handed to

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-27 Thread Graham Leggett
Wendell Beckwith wrote: > You're like original band members, but it hurts to say that you all are getting your asses handed to you by orgs like Spring and Eclipse. There just doing a far better job on the dcomentation and website. Having used maven1 for a long time (and having been blown aw

[RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-27 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I primarily deal with 2 open source organizations, Apache and Eclipse. To a lesser degree, I also interact with tigris.org for subversion and subclipse, springframework.org for more and more each week it seems and a few other ".org" organizations. I like to think I grok open source software and