Re: proposal : make POM less verbose

2008-02-10 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Tim, I see where you're going and in general I agree with you as I think most software should be extensible to handle unknown environments and unique situations. However, I think the biggest bang for buck is to fix/enhance the current one way and then add pluggability for POM parser substitution

Re: proposal : make POM less verbose

2008-02-10 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I see your +1000 and will raise you +5000 as this is really needed. Wb On Feb 10, 2008 8:08 AM, Arik Kfir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a long-time Maven user: a big +1000 from me :) > > > -- > > Thanks, > Arik Kfir. >

Re: State of the Archiva (Feb 2007)

2007-02-22 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Hell yes, I'm all for the changes, especially the ability to clean the repository of snapshots!! Ideally, I would like to have archiva periodically keep the last x snapshots and delete the rest. The only other thing I think is sorely missing is LDAP intregration. Jira, Confluce, Pulse, Jive, an

Re: [PROPOSAL] maven-build-context (Shared context for Maven components and plugins)

2007-01-29 Thread Wendell Beckwith
As for modding the build order, I'm still not sure that's possible (or advisable, in the larger context)...currently, I've only used the build-context concept in maven-core as mainly a read-only data structure, after it's setup. Are you talking about the need to inject new projects to an existing

Re: [PROPOSAL] maven-build-context (Shared context for Maven components and plugins)

2007-01-29 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I've read the doc and the irc and while I can see the benefit to a shared context, I'm curious as to whether the current pressing need is coming more from maven or the kepler project? Doesn't matter either way just looking for the origin of the pain. This proposal looks to satisfy some of the OS

Re: Where are plug-in classpaths resolved?

2006-12-06 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Thanks Brett. I'll try digging through it later tonight. Wb On 12/6/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DefaultPluginManager is the place to look. You are looking for the creation of a child plexus container, and jar resources being added to that. On 07/12/2006, at 10:20

Where are plug-in classpaths resolved?

2006-12-06 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Can a dev comment on http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MANTRUN-51 and/or http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MANTRUN-63 since I'm pretty sure their one and the same? This is such an issue to work around that previously I got around it by breaking my command invocation into 2 separate mvn invocations th

Re: Releasing Maven 2.0.5

2006-11-02 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I'm all +1 for more frequent releases too. However, this issue goes to the core of an issue I brought up previously where maven should publish a build milestone/release schedule similar to eclipse. For example, no one is asking the Eclipse platform guys and gals to please make a release because

Re: Creating a .wsr file artifact

2006-10-07 Thread Wendell Beckwith
IIRC those are "standard" mappings and they are defined inside the components.xml defined in the maven-core plugin in your /lib directory. Because your plugin is not a "standard" plugin you have to use the element with your plugin declaration in the pom of the project that uses the maven-wsr-plu

Re: 2.1 Trunk and lack of debug output

2006-09-10 Thread Wendell Beckwith
fixed. May take a look at that piece later, later. Wb On 9/10/06, Wendell Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Brett, I guess I'll need to debug this later today as it's annoying that it's not happening. I hopefully will submit a patch if I get to it before someone

Re: 2.1 Trunk and lack of debug output

2006-09-09 Thread Wendell Beckwith
k. On 10/09/2006, at 2:11 PM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: > Is there a problem with executing the 2.1 trunk code with the -X or > --debug > options? I have 2 separate trunk checkouts, one from a week ago > and one I > just built. Both builds seem to work fine with the exception that

2.1 Trunk and lack of debug output

2006-09-09 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Is there a problem with executing the 2.1 trunk code with the -X or --debug options? I have 2 separate trunk checkouts, one from a week ago and one I just built. Both builds seem to work fine with the exception that it is impossible to get debug output out of them it I pass --debug or -X on the

Re: Why isn't used when installing/deploying?

2006-09-06 Thread Wendell Beckwith
John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where the finalName is important in the filename, I think the only alternative is to copy (ugh, I know) the file inside ${ project.build.directory} with the appropriate name, and reference that file. -john On 9/6/06, Wendell Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: Why isn't used when installing/deploying?

2006-09-06 Thread Wendell Beckwith
at repository without introducing ambiguity or unreasonable performance penalties. Maybe it'll change for 2.x, but there are no plans to do so right now. Does that help? -john On 9/2/06, Wendell Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am working on creating a plugin to specifically do

Re: Discussion for issue MNG-2546 (Eclipse/OSGi Dependencies)

2006-09-06 Thread Wendell Beckwith
e a chance to fix problems that are occurring in the assembly and clover plugins as well, I believe. Cheers, John On 9/5/06, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 06, at 2:55 AM 5 Sep 06, Milos Kleint wrote: > > > On 9/5/06, Wendell Beckwith <[EMA

Re: Discussion for issue MNG-2546 (Eclipse/OSGi Dependencies)

2006-09-04 Thread Wendell Beckwith
On 9/4/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you've done the work, go ahead and submit a patch. I think I'll find the code easier to read than this mail :) Done. Yeah, the email was verbose but the code changes were simple once I found where the reactor was located. I think we defi

Discussion for issue MNG-2546 (Eclipse/OSGi Dependencies)

2006-09-04 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I was hoping to get some discussion going about http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2546. For handling eclipse plugins this is a big issue. I really see this as extending the support that maven provides to single project builds to multi-project builds. A lot of plugins dynamically add informati

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-09-04 Thread Wendell Beckwith
On 9/4/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 30/08/2006, at 6:10 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: > For my team, I have been using, with minor adaptations, the eclipse > dev > process and in general I think it has the right amount of > "agility". We > post o

Why isn't used when installing/deploying?

2006-09-02 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I am working on creating a plugin to specifically do Eclipse plugin builds and OSGi bundles as a consequence that all plugins are bundles. I have run into a problem where some parts of eclipse doesn't care what the name of a jar file is as long as it's contents is correct. Then there is the Ecli

Re: plugin releases

2006-08-30 Thread Wendell Beckwith
On 8/30/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good morning, ... More importantly, is anyone willing to help? Particularly if we could grab this data from JIRA and automate it, it would be a lot easier. This is something I could help do. I have written plugins for jira, but not Co

Re: [RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-29 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Sorry, I did walk away there for a little bit. On 8/27/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 28/08/2006, at 7:14 AM, Wendell Beckwith wrote: > Take toady's latest example, say you want to remove an ant build > file and do > things the maven way, so you decide t

[RANT] Maven is both heaven and hell

2006-08-27 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I primarily deal with 2 open source organizations, Apache and Eclipse. To a lesser degree, I also interact with tigris.org for subversion and subclipse, springframework.org for more and more each week it seems and a few other ".org" organizations. I like to think I grok open source software and

Is the maven-compiler-plugin really usable with alternate compilers?

2006-08-27 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I looked through the open issues and didn't see anything but is there any known gotchas about using alternate compilers with the maven-compiler-plugin, like it's not fully baked/supported yet? Because as issue http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCOMPILER-43, details it is unsafe to use the eclipse c

Re: [discuss] A new name for the repository manager?

2006-08-03 Thread Wendell Beckwith
On 8/3/06, nhb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Brett invited me to post an idea or two I had to the list: Maven Curator +1 - This just rolls of the tongue. Wb

Re: [proposal] toolchain support for Maven 2.1

2006-07-16 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I would strongly favor this approach as it has fixed issues with our projects where we now just specify the execution environment to be java 1.4and 5.0 and individuals can use different maintenance versions of Sun's java 5 jdk as well as some of the diagnostics in BEA's jrockit 5.0 jdk without cha

Re: [proposal] Maven 2.1 Design Topics

2006-07-12 Thread Wendell Beckwith
Alternative component support would be a big win for maven 2.1 on the OSGi/Eclipse bundle front. I look forward to hopefully contributing in this area. Wb On 7/12/06, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everyone, ... * Alternative Component Support In order to flex to meet the n

Re: Eclipse/OSGi and Maven 2

2006-06-12 Thread Wendell Beckwith
-2.0" as a repo group and adding this dependency to your pom would transitively resolved when the group was resolved and add spring-2.0, commons-logging-1.1, log4j-1.2.13 and hibernate-3.1.3 to the classpath for the project. Wb On 6/9/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wen

Re: Eclipse/OSGi and Maven 2

2006-06-09 Thread Wendell Beckwith
On 6/9/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's totally possible, but you're probably going to need a custom Maven installation at this point. - Brett Wendell Beckwith wrote: > I recently raised from the dead the previous talk about mavenizing the > development of

Eclipse/OSGi and Maven 2

2006-06-08 Thread Wendell Beckwith
I recently raised from the dead the previous talk about mavenizing the development of eclipse (or rather OSGi bundles) plugins, The thread can be seen here, http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pde-build-dev/maillist.html. My question for the devs is that if we need to modify m2's dependency reso