-dependency-plugin, or would it be better suited for another plugin or
> Maven core itself?
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Just follow the Oracle Javadoc guidelines:
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> > dependencies look like they could use improvement:
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OK, looks like that was in the 4.0 branch and this is for the 3,x
branch. In the 3.x branch there's one unused test dependency that can
be removed, nothing serious I can see.
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n release process works.
However, critical bug fixes should generate a new RC. Overall I would
prefer much more rigorous versioning. Right now we're pushing RCs with
known unstable APIs, which I would normally consider appropriate for
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can think of, and I'd be happy to ditch that. We don't run with
outdated dependencies or unsupported JDKs. When we have outdated
dependencies, it's because no one has pressed the Squash and Merge
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on long term support and reliability. Should anyone ever care enough
about this to start paying for support and development, that might
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> Vincent
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> PS:
>
> In reality, you don’t notice these tools until problems arise.
>
> It’s like karma—silent and harmless until you break something. Then it comes
> back to show its cost.
>
> Just want to limit this. Currently, there’s no
der some conditions) fix test compile issue: added dependency
> test path for modules
> * Wrong encoding when reading the output of forked JVM on Windows
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> >
> > >
> >
> > > I will work on it, I hope the release can be done in the next two -
> > three weeks.
> >
> > > Any help as usual is apprec
DK needs, also toolchain tools can be used.
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> Have a sunny day everyone
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> that they may be removed in a future version. We would still have the
> other benefits and be prepared for this evolution.
>
> Any though?
>
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, we absolutely can do that. We use a new modelVersion 4.1.0 for
Maven 4.0. (Confusingly modelVersion 4.0.0 is for Maven 3 but c'est la
vie.) We can make Maven reject any poms that use modelVersion 4.1.0
and do not have the proper namespace. This will not reject any
existing poms which use earlier
I think it's time to create a branch to release Maven 4.0.0 GA in the
> coming weeks and switch master to 4.1.0-SNAPSHOT.
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4.1 or 4.2 or whatever that has a
> element.
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> > Yes, it's too late. I share your frustration with hierarchies, and
> > more than in just the context of build systems. There are a lot of
> > areas
tool to a genuine
> masterpiece. M4 without tiles would be a huge step backwards even if it
> improves numerous other things.
>
> I have read through the following page, and most of it sounds good:
> https://maven.apache.org/whatsnewinmaven4.html
>
> What's the path forward?
&
scope and `optional`
> qualifier. These are source of interminable discussions on which one
> should be used.
>
> [2]
> https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/java_library_plugin.html#sec:java_library_separation
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all-changing companies. At my work we got some tools, that still
> > > only support Java EE 6 and Java 8 while we don't get newer versions
> > > provided by ops...
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ations can't be relied
on. The code will be in worse shape than it was when the effort
started.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 4:36 AM Xeno Amess wrote:
>
> as title.
> during recently learning about maven and maven-resolver, sometimes I really
> think it better to have nullable/notnull
e only auto-closing issues that were waiting for
feedback when no feedback had arrived by the deadline. We shouldn't
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> wrong.
Namespaces could resolve that.
> or is there some way to allow some...prefix?or allow-all-namespace like
> or something?
>
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verything I need to build this project?" instead of "Do I
understand every element in this pom?"
A slightly less radical approach would be to ignore elements not in
Maven's own namespace.
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> > who raised concern about comments in the build POM being removed in the
> > published consumer POM. They thought that could be problematic for larger
> > corporations who want, for example, copyright comments.
> >
> > Any thou
To be clear, we're not banning anyone. We're simply being cautious
about active permissions given the risk of compromised old accounts.
With 72 committers some of whom haven't been heard from in over ten
years, it's likely some of these accounts are effectively defunct.
It
; - 3.x version
>
> will be the best today, so I will prepare updates in documentation
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 13:30, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:50 AM Slawomir Jaranowski
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to main
No, not important. Development branches that aren't released aren't
especially risky. We need to be careful about what we ship, not random
sets of changes that have to be reviewed and merged into master before
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in the past to increase security, most notably requiring https for
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mmitters + 1 PMC or b) 2 PMC have to approve.
>
>
> Let's have a constructive discussion here on the ML.
>
> @Hervè I'm open to update site when we have agreed on any result :)
>
> Greeting
> Matthias
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-site/pull/569
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If you look at https://github.com/apache/maven-jlink-plugin/issues
you'll notice that all the issues from the Jira have been copied into
github multiple times.
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> Howdy,
>
> So let me get this straight: you are now suffering from
> "unknown branches and/or junkyard of branches in canonical repo"?
> While you still refuse to use forks?
>
> T
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 12:58 PM Elliotte Rusty H
Can I delete the maven-3.x-next branch in the github repo? It appears
to be a relic of circa 3.5.0 and is not the actual current 3.x branch,
which I'm still looking for.
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> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 12:16 AM Mark Derricutt wrote:
> > >
> >
> > &g
an. Do you
really want to include an entire pom.xml? Probably not, and XPath
fragment identifiers aren't well understood or supported.
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> with registration number SC005336. Is e buidheann carthannais a th’ ann an
> Oilthigh Dhùn Èideann, clàraichte an Alba, àireamh clàraidh SC005336.
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repository.
>
> I presume the lack of that (plus ‘Discussions’ and ‘Wiki’ tabs) is a
> configuration thing.
>
> Can someone please fix that for me?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Later,
>
> Andy
>
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land,
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anup in canonical reposes as well...
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> TL;DR: fork and create PRs from forks please.
>
> Thanks,
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probably not. Seriously these are
such trivial matters, I don't understand why anyone would care. The
only real problem I've seen is a noisy mailing list, and that's
because the mailing list is badly configured, not because folks use
branche
ges" this project. We are all pawns
> on the table.
>
> Thanks
> T
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 4:53 PM Tamás Cservenák wrote:
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > And I guess fixing the mailing list will also take care of all your
> > branches in canonical repo, i
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> Le dim. 5 janv. 2025 à 15:49, Elliotte Rusty Harold
> a écrit :
> >
> > I do think the mailing list is severely misconfigured if it's paying
> > any attention to dev branches. There's no reason it s
o be worked on. Disabling new issue
creation is a good idea.
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> - then I asked you who will clean up these vaguely named branches you
> create in canonical repo
> - you came back with "branches as cheap" and "eventually project will
> move off git" and "branches are how git works&qu
es for developers to
follow instead of fixing broken tooling — like apparently whatever is
sending commit messages to the mailing list — is not the way to go.
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> ASF reposes, so IMHO this is not a "red herring".
> Just use a fork, that's all.
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> > This shouldn't be a problem if we disable e
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test coverage you can only see static analysis results.
>
> > On 2. Jan 2025, at 14:19, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> >
> > Can we have some examples of the output? I'd want close to zero false
> > positives and no log junk before doing this.
> >
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gnore any that aren't in apache/maven*. I think
those are all on the second page toward the end of the list. Thanks.
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>
> Input is appreciated. I found palantir/spotless very valuable and I
> wouldn't want to ditch it from Maven.
>
> - Ben
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e case, please state that explicitly and close the PR. Let's
not passive aggressively ignore PRs while we wait for the contributor
to get discouraged and go away. It's OK to say no. It's not OK to say
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e. Fully automatic or don't do it.
Ideally we'd migrate all issues, open and closed, though I suppose I
can live with only migrating open issues. But having two places to
look for bugs is one too many.
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>
> Thanks
> T
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 2:48 PM Maarten Mulders
> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/12/2024 12:29, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 5:10 PM Slawomir Jaranowski
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
on. However, this needs to be done issue by
issue, not as a bulk close of all issues older than some arbitrary
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tldr; when every JIra issue goes into the release notes, PRs that
don't belong in the release notes should not have Jira issues.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 10:11 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
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> Le dim. 8 déc. 2024 à 23:03, Elliotte Rusty Harold a
> écrit :
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> > On Sun,
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dependabot isn't smart enough to do that automatically. If folks
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et up issue tracking this would be
one per repo, and I'm disinclined to file the same bug 40 times. Let's
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