Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-24 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Chris Graham wrote: >> I can imagine that many of the Maven-interoperability issues that ivy >> had/has (I've not been near it for some years) are attributable to the lack >> of a usable specification of repository layouts, operational semantics, etc. > > I think t

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > On 12-02-23 04:37 AM, Chas Emerick wrote: >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: >> >>> Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. >> Very true for `mvn`. Not true in

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
Yeah, I'll post over there shortly. However, while Aether is the now-canonical implementation of these operations, many other tools exist (and will exist) that create, update, and access Apache Maven repository data. It seems like having well-defined semantics for such things separate from any

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
think you mean something > else when you say "deploy operation". > >> -Original Message- >> From: Chas Emerick [mailto:c...@cemerick.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM >> To: Maven Developers List >> Subject: Re: Functional distincti

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: > Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland tool convention, and not a fundamental characteristic of the 'deploy' operation. However, even Aether leaves some resolver

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: > On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: >> I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify >> some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is >> generally appl

Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chas Emerick
I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is generally applicable for all Maven tools…but let me know if I should simply bounce to the Aether ML. In short, I'd like to know what the functional

Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now with the old aether

2011-08-19 Thread Chas Emerick
For what it's worth, working around Maven not having had a release since the 1.12 release of Aether has been an unwelcome hassle. (FYI, I reported one of the issues Jason mentioned, MNG-5087.) I don't have much perspective on the intricacies or history of the licensing and governance issues that