Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Mickael Istria
On Monday, June 3, 2019, Tibor Digana wrote: > > We are the maintainers. Beware this kind of statements hurt the project and its community. > Do you inherit from this project and you need dom4j as transitive > dependency? More or less yes. M2E embeds maven-archiver and transitive dependencie

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Sylwester Lachiewicz
Hi, if dom4j is problematic I can try to remove that old dependency. We use it internally in 2 placea (in fact almost only one simple method) - to manage element in pom.xml Sylwester W dniu wt., 4.06.2019 o 09:36 Homer, Tony napisał(a): > >>But there is one thing I do not understand why such u

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Homer, Tony
>>But there is one thing I do not understand why such upgrade is so important >>for the users even if overriding the dependency in user's POM is so simple. >>Do you inherit from this project and you need dom4j as transitive dependency? I suppose you did not ask me, but I thought I'd share the bac

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Homer, Tony
>>Who's the maintainer? https://github.com/FilipJirsak >> Sometimes a friendly ping through back channels can work wonders. I don't know him but I sent him an email and cc:ed you (Rusty). On 6/3/19 , 10:12 AM, "Elliotte Rusty Harold" wrote: Who's the maintainer? Sometimes a friendly ping t

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Tibor Digana
@Mickael Istria @Eric Lilja @Elliotte Rusty Harold We are the maintainers. But there is one thing I do not understand why such upgrade is so important for the users even if overriding the dependency in user's POM is so simple. Do you inherit from this project and you need dom4j as transitive de

Re: [MNG-6667] Hint at Maven upgrade requirement when trying to build a pom.xml with a newer modelVersion

2019-06-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
Merged On Sun 2 Jun 2019 at 11:44, Stephen Connolly < stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > I’m going to add a test where the “newer” pom has an incompatible schema > with only modelVersion retained to ensure the parser errors get dismissed > and we bomb early with the modelVersion complaint

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Eric Lilja
+1, people on old versions of Java can remain on the old version of the plugin. No one who is in a project where an old version of Java is still in use (< 8) expect to have everything else in their eco-system (3PPs, maven plugins etc) at bleeding edge versions. I guess many such projects are many v

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Mickael Istria
People who don't want to update are the ones who have to pay the effort, not the project that tries to ship a security fix. The simplest past forward is the one provided by Tony. Customers who don't want to use it can remain on previous version of the archetype plugins. Other proposals to fix it ar

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
Who's the maintainer? Sometimes a friendly ping through back channels can work wonders. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:46 PM Homer, Tony wrote: > > >>Perhaps ask the dom4j developers first to see if a 2.0.3 release can be > >>scheduled. > FWIW, there was an issue logged asking for that on 6 December

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Homer, Tony
>>Perhaps ask the dom4j developers first to see if a 2.0.3 release can be >>scheduled. FWIW, there was an issue logged asking for that on 6 December 2018 [1]. I noted this in the PR as well [2] as an explanation for the bump to 2.1.1 and Java 8. Just making sure this information is part of the di

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Tibor Digana
First of all, this PR was create because of vulnerability CVE-2018-1000632. Vulner or non-vulnerability, the version of javac for dom4j:1.6.1 is not an argument for me. If some code was broken in that version, it would be an argument. But it is not an argument to infinitely grow versions only becau

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
I know there are plenty of places at Java 8+. There are also many who haven't gotten that far. Some of my day job involves Java 7+ clients, and I know of others even further back than that. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:38 AM Gary Gregory wrote: > > FWIW, we are talking at work about Java 8 and 11 on

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Gary Gregory
FWIW, we are talking at work about Java 8 and 11 only these days. Java 7 is in the distant past. Most people can't even get Java 7 updates since it is EOL unless you pay. Gary On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:35 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > I agree that this should be fixed. I'm not yet convinced

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
I agree that this should be fixed. I'm not yet convinced that requiring Java 8 and upgrading to dom4j 2.1 is the bets fix. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:24 AM Enrico Olivelli wrote: > > Elliotte, > > Il giorno lun 3 giu 2019 alle ore 15:59 Elliotte Rusty Harold < > elh...@ibiblio.org> ha scritto: > >

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Enrico Olivelli
Elliotte, Il giorno lun 3 giu 2019 alle ore 15:59 Elliotte Rusty Harold < elh...@ibiblio.org> ha scritto: > Perhaps ask the dom4j developers first to see if a 2.0.3 release can > be scheduled. > > And if that doesn't work, how much effort is it to switch off of dom4j > completely? > > maven-arche

Re: proposal for maven-archetype to switch to dom4j 2.1.1 (and Java 8)

2019-06-03 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
Perhaps ask the dom4j developers first to see if a 2.0.3 release can be scheduled. And if that doesn't work, how much effort is it to switch off of dom4j completely? maven-archetype strikes me as too important to drop Java 7 compatibility this soon. On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:02 PM Homer, Tony

Re: Dead Links to Wiki Pages

2019-06-03 Thread James Gough
Tibor and I worked through this on the SUREFIRE issue above. I think it makes sense to remove the link to the wiki but add a note to encourage people to contribute on GitHub. I'm going to aim to make those changes across all projects over the next few days. Thanks Tibor for your guidance. Jim On