Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le mercredi 24 août 2016 13:50:33 Robert Scholte a écrit : > I realized last ApacheCon that I wasn't clear about my definiton of the > consumer-pom. > I don't think it should be a flattened pom with only the dependency > information. Instead it shouldn't be a pom (matching the pom.xsd) at all. IMH

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 24 August 2016 at 04:50, Robert Scholte wrote: > I realized last ApacheCon that I wasn't clear about my definiton of the > consumer-pom. > I don't think it should be a flattened pom with only the dependency > information. Instead it shouldn't be a pom (matching the pom.xsd) at all. > I am no

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven WAR Plugin version 3.0.0 (Take 2)

2016-08-24 Thread Tibor Digana
+1: here is my voice On 8/24/16, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: > Hi, > > We solved 33 issues: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12318121&version=12331760 > > There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%2

[VOTE] Release Apache Maven WAR Plugin version 3.0.0 (Take 2)

2016-08-24 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi, We solved 33 issues: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12318121&version=12331760 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MWAR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20key%20DESC%2C%20priority

Re: Building Maven from scratch

2016-08-24 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi Björn, On 24/08/16 08:57, Björn Höfling wrote: Hi Karl Heinz, On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 21:51:11 +0200 Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: Hi Björn, On 23/08/16 08:25, Björn Höfling wrote: I want to build maven without haven _ANY_ maven/plugin binary. How can I do that? First you can do that only ti

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Christian Schulte
Am 08/24/16 um 08:23 schrieb Hervé BOUTEMY: > version ranges: I hate version ranges... :) > notice: what is the issue with version ranges? the generated consumer pom can > contain version ranges, since it is a long-standing feature It would be really cool if the whole dependency resolution could

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Robert Scholte
I realized last ApacheCon that I wasn't clear about my definiton of the consumer-pom. I don't think it should be a flattened pom with only the dependency information. Instead it shouldn't be a pom (matching the pom.xsd) at all. Maybe it should be called something like consumer-dom (dependency

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Anders Hammar
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Martijn Dashorst < martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Fred Cooke wrote: > > Fair call re embedded pom, however it's quite convenient to just browse > to > > it and read. > I'd like to vent another opinion: the build pom makes it

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Fred Cooke wrote: > Fair call re embedded pom, however it's quite convenient to just browse to > it and read. I'd like to vent another opinion: the build pom makes it hard to grok the information I need as a consumer of a library. I really don't need to wade throu

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
The consumer Pom is for machine to machine, it should be human readable because that is nice, but intent is never human generated. Switching to this separation allows us to be more radical in the changes to the build Pom. The only reason we deploy packaging Pom's build Pom is for inheritance. If

Re: POM Model version 4.1.0 in 3.4.0-SNAPSHOTs

2016-08-24 Thread Fred Cooke
I still find it a bit off that the original real POM won't always be directly available anymore. Other tools create fake POMs because they *have* to - there's no other option. I feel like some fidelity would be lost. Diffability would be lost (from a scenario where there's nothing to diff). Unre